if one is in the midst of various difficulties and asks about another new situation 29.3 doesn't feels well. Having various issues and difficulties from serious ones to just things falling apart asked about a meeting would take place here in my home country and an advise for the days would spend with my 3yo study- buddies and our time together; a "big" event for all of us and just wanted to be prepared.

at a first glance 29.3 makes you say "YIKES" , yet , imo and recent experience its not bad at all. My take its that while for the other problems there is no a solution , this particular event feels like a refreshment and you can enjoy yourself even been in a pit in regards to other matters.

Feels like the KIt-kat commercial we have here. Lots of noise and busyness yet, when the actor , opens their Kit-kat everything else pauses and they enjoy their snack.

So, if sometimes your plate is full and you have to handle something new, just consider that it might be of a different nature... A refreshment ... or those with a sweet teeth a Kit-Kat Sometimes , its not more troubles, and the visual of another place of been stuck might make you apprehensive or even cancel a course of action... pause a bit and reconsider ... maybe is a "prediction" of a staying in an oasis

Tried to post that "theory" when I first got this line and the opening sentence was " I hope I won't have to revise it "... Well... sticking to that after the events...

maybe this is not always what the line says and other may have different experience. ( would love to hear them ) but I can assure you that this -positive- side of line 29.3 is equally valid .

greetings from Kit-Kat land

Yes it seems feasible to me that in some situations 29.3 might be experienced as a refreshing break. I think I have on occasion been relieved by the lines in 29 ....as in 'thank god there is nothing more to do right now except experience this awake'.


Everyone must have noticed at certain most appalling times in life, ravines and chasms on all sides, that there are these moments where, despite not knowing which chasm one might fall in next or which whirlpool might sweep one away, one just is living in it and it feels okay. This is a kit kat moment. I think 29.3 might well be the line of the kit kat.

As that well known Doors song says we are all 'riders on the storm' and even a sailor in the midst of a storm where she can do nothing but hold tight and hold true can have a kit kat....in the riggings

says 'we're not living minute to minute or hour to hour, we're living from second to second'



[video=youtube;sUhKBZb7A7c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sUhKBZb7A7c#t=40[/video]


Often with 29 those seas are our own feelings that we navigate inwardly. Kit kats also come in handy then.

I think you have a good understanding of the line, even unto the Zhi Gua of the Well, dipping into a little refreshment.

Trojina said:

Everyone must have noticed at certain most appalling times in life, ravines and chasms on all sides, that there are these moments where, despite not knowing which chasm one might fall in next or which whirlpool might sweep one away, one just is living in it and it feels okay. This is a kit kat moment. I think 29.3 might well be the line of the kit kat.

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Tell me about it !!!! I had this line sometime ago ( can't recall the whole reading) when couldn't 'handle' the continuous fall down of the online system I use at office and was not easy to deal it- just unable to do anything plus hear the complains of clients. You have not much control in such cases... just wait for the IT to solve the problem

I recall during a trekking excursion we where stuck due to bad whether. We found a barn and while the boys put on a fire to cook we sat on the hays and singing

Trojina said:

Often with 29 those seas are our own feelings that we navigate inwardly. Kit kats also come in handy then.

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strongly agree !!!! Many times embark my mental boats and travel into the inner rivers and seas

bradford said:

even unto the Zhi Gua of the Well, dipping into a little refreshment.

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Yes . I usually understand better some aspects of a hex when have a One-changing- line readings One see "where is coming from" a Hex.... and vv.

anemos said:

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Tried to post that "theory" when I first got this line and the opening sentence was " I hope I won't have to revise it "... Well... sticking to that after the events...

maybe this is not always what the line says and other may have different experience. ( would love to hear them ) but I can assure you that this -positive- side of line 29.3 is equally valid .

greetings from Kit-Kat land

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Hi, María:

The image of the Kit-Kat, dangerous but stimulant, like a bitten aple:


Of course, something to do with LOVE.

See a possible literal translation:


If we know how to behave in dangerous situations, if we are able to get in and get out of them willingly, we have masterized danger, we are accustomed to it, which is the meaning of H.29 習坎 xi2 kan3.

Xi2 = to practice / to study / habit / (to learn by experience or repetition)
Kan3 = trap / pit / hole /

Don´t you believe that TAM-TAM means PASSION? Ser here:


Don't you believe so?


All the best,


Charly

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(1) 之 zhi in some cases means GOING TO, coming from and going to kan kan. But kan kan means the SOUND OF DRUMMING, whose sense can be "hearts beating like the jungle drums", say, PASSION. Coming and going also means INTERCOURSE.

(2) 枕 zhen = TO ENJOY, literally: to pillow (one´s head in it).

枕流漱石 or 枕石漱流 to ENJOY rocks and stream (to “pillow one's head on stream” or “on rock”);

Lin Yutang´s Online Dictionary
http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/Lindict/

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Ch.

need a kit-kat to attune myself with your translation

charly said:

If we know how to behave in dangerous situations, if we are able to get in and get out of them willingly, we have masterized danger, we are accustomed to it, which is the meaning of H.29 習坎 xi2 kan3.

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I agree, yes !! What i found helpful and was the reason I shared this reading was that actually the warning and advice was not directly connected with the coming event. No danger, not stuck , nothing. My feeling and the way I read it was more about my mental state. I was of course a bit apprehensive as its first time we meet all face to face and wanted to ensure my guests would have a great time but my impression is that Yi's words were "Enjoy it"... the other issues that are kind of a pit I'm in remain the same yet for those days my guests are here Yi put it aside- or advise me to put them aside.

we often discuss here about the mental state and how we see or expect things will be through the Lens of that state and this reading, imo, makes clear it.

anemos said:

need a kit-kat to attune myself with your translation
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we often discuss here about the mental state and how we see or expect things will be through the Lens of that state and this reading, imo, makes clear it.

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Hi, Maria:

Trust me, it's almost literal although not the only possible. The lines of the Changes have many different readings, some of them even contradictory, Not only that the words are polysemic but that the discurses are hologrammatic, they change with the point of wiew of the reader.

Maybe the advice is don't worry, enjoy it, don't get trapped in your own fear. Even maybe love would be sourrounding you.(1)

All the best,


Charly
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(1) The right component of the character 坎 kan is 欠 qian4, a sighing man which also occurs in the character yu4 欲 =to desire / to intend / to long for / to want / wish / desire / expectation / longing / (now rarely) love / to love . From: ncle Hansi's Chineseetymology

Ch.