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I found a few threads on this response and wow...it sounds like a really awesome response! I am excited to receive such a delightful response in answer to a question asked relating to my situation. My question was regarding the best line of action for regarding a new relationship. I'm not in a very "healthy" place to begin any type of relationship and have been submerged in a nasty relationship drama for a very long time that has become very toxic for me and its toxicity has prevented me from feeling able or willing to begin any new relationship endeavors. Which in some sick twist of irony has kept me spinning around within the toxic relationship.
I have recently connected with an old friend whom I've known for YEARS in a simple, non-intimate, but respectful friendship/acquaintance. He and I have recently spent some time together and the energy between us surprisingly (!!) seems to want to head in a romantic/intimate direction. This is very unexpected for me! ...And I am fearfully hesitant. I am fearful because I have intentionally chosen not to allow any innocent "bystanders" into my life for for over three years now, out of fear of someone getting hurt in the madness of my situation. I certainly do not want to be hurt as well and recognize my high degree of vulnerability. So, for several reasons, this unexpected situation has me caught like a deer in headlights:eek:
Please forgive my wordy explanation of this reading. I'm concerned regarding receiving what seems a fantastic response (17.5.) but my fears are heightened when I contemplate what the resulting 51/shock might indicate? I have a deep fear of hurting this man...as well as my own current vulnerability. I am ready to run like the wind anyway and am trying to open myself to the concept of not running for a (refreshing)change.
Any thoughts on this combination in regards to my situation? I would really appreciate input/insight!
Thank you:bows:
 

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you sound like you are in the middle of 51 -- you sound very shaken and excited. I agree that it is a lovely line. To me, the main thing to remember would be to hold this lovely chalice carefully and reverently no matter how shaken you feel. does that make any sense?
 

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I'm concerned regarding receiving what seems a fantastic response (17.5.) but my fears are heightened when I contemplate what the resulting 51/shock might indicate? I have a deep fear of hurting this man...as well as my own current vulnerability. I am ready to run like the wind anyway and am trying to open myself to the concept of not running for a (refreshing)change.

There is a lot about 51 on this Exploring Divination thread. Don't be afraid, there's only good here. I agree with knot -- you are experiencing the "shock" already; it doesn't mean there's another lurking to surprise you. Wilhelm calls 51 "The Arousing" and Huang, "Taking Action", so why not be aroused and take action? Have you noticed the decision (Alfred Huang's translation):
Taking Action.
Prosperous and smooth.
Thunder comes -- alarm! alarm!
Laughing and talking -- ha! ha!
Thunder shocks a hundred li.
The sacrificial spoon and chalice do not fall.
It's an exciting time more than a dangerous one. Hilary's second podcast was about 51. She pointed out something intersting about the last line. Even though the shaking might have upset things, the most important things remain unharmed. The only thing 51 shakes up are things like pride -- insecure foundations that could do with toppling. But your attitude seems to be modest, caring and cautious. For these sort of people the shaking is often a release from constraints (viz. The Tower tarot card).

But that, of course, is merely the relating hexagram, not the main one. The important thing is that the oracle sees the answer to your question is that you are "in the flow of things". If your situation follows the pattern here, of the "elder son" being happy to comply with the "youngest daughter", that rare and auspicious yuan heng li zhen is yours. As always, be awake and careful. But go for it! :)
 

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Hmmph!!

Gosh.... this is really, REALLY uncanny to me...gotta share..

I casted again today regarding this same person, asking IC "what are the possibilities in regards to this relationship?"

IC answered 17.5. ->51 :eek: WOW-SA!!

Okay now, what in the world are the odds of asking about a situation two times and both times getting the exact same response... What in the world?! I guess I had better be SURE I understand this message in its entirety before I even think about asking any others pertaining to this situation! Most of you have probably had similar experiences in readings as this and may not consider this quite so fascinating(unbelievable?) as I, so please forgive me as yes, the IC has amazed me before but never quite this succinctly...

Gsh, the IC really makes me think sometimes!!!;)
 
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diamanda

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After all these years, i've never lost the WOW factor with the I Ching, and
i don't think i ever will - i count myself lucky not to! and so should you :)

17 speaks of Following. The Arousing, the son, prompts the Joyous, the
young woman, to follow him. With every line, we depart from this situation.
With line 1, one follows various people. With line 2, one follows the 'weak'.
With line 3, one follows indeed a suitable partner. With line 4, one needs
to stop following wrong people.

With line 5, one is not concerned with any of the above, perhaps forgets,
for a time, about the whole issue, and follows 'goodness' and 'excellence'
instead.

However, and unrelated to this, a Shock is on its way.

In my experience, i've found this line to mean "follow what is good, and
this is the way to arm yourself against the shock that is on its way".
However in your case, and because of the circumstances you describe,
i'm wondering if it actually also means that the 'son', the 'arousing', now
doubles itself up to attract your attention off the way of 'goodness' and
towards himself ;)
 

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In my experience, i've found this line to mean "follow what is good, and
this is the way to arm yourself against the shock that is on its way".
However in your case, and because of the circumstances you describe,
i'm wondering if it actually also means that the 'son', the 'arousing', now
doubles itself up to attract your attention off the way of 'goodness' and
towards himself

Diamanda, that is an interesting thought! I've had hunches that something like this might happen! Although, I have to admit, I didn't get that from these hexagrams, like you were able to. I thought I might be worried about this just due to my own fears and I tended to point at the old relationship as creating the shock in any new environments or relationships I might want to create. It's highly possible given my circumstances that I could get so distracted trying to keep myself from the old "stuff" and person that I could miss blatant signals from the new situation....Thank you so much for adding your thoughts! You've given me much to ponder:)
 

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