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klann

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In response to a question re potential of a relationship, I got hex 2, all lines changing except line 2.

I've read that in such cases only the not changing line should be taken into account, BUT I've also read, other sources, that only the non moving line should be considered but in the relating hex (in this case, then, 13.2). And yet other sources suggest that all the lines are, normally, read and the non moving line disregarded.

Which one should I do?

Thank you in advance not only because this is an important question, but because I never really know how to deal with multiple changing lines.

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Usually I read 13.2->8

Firm line in the second place means:
Fellowship with men in the clan.
Humiliation.
 

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Usually I read 13.2->8

Firm line in the second place means:
Fellowship with men in the clan.
Humiliation.

Huh... well, thanks for the tip regarding the lines. :) Does it mean I should not take the rest of them into account or should I just pay extra attention to this one?

Yet, what does "humiliation" refer to in this case? ... Not only re my question about the relationship potential but altogether: how are 'fellowship' and 'humiliation' in correspondence?
 

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it looks to me that the relation already started but you don't know and you are still looking for it. therefore humiliation
 

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it looks to me that the relation already started but you don't know and you are still looking for it. therefore humiliation

Hahahah! Good point. And good advice, actually...thanks...
 
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Klann,

There's many ways of dealing with many changing lines. I suggest finding what works best for you and going with it. For me it's like a story, as with multiple readings. Sometimes just grasping how the two hexagrams relate to my question is good enough, or it gives me a solid foundation to work with the sequential lines.

Deciphering each of many lines is more work, and in my opinion, it's not always necessary; anymore than it would be to make a study of every scene in a play. If you learn to view them as a play, you get the idea rather quickly of the theme.

For example one might interpret 2.1,3,4,5,6 as:

The beginning was chilly, but it felt right: reason to hope. Then you (and/or she) become introspective and secretive, and withdrew, to emerge more balanced and sure of yourselves, whereupon you have a major fight. Now you're just friends.

No idea if the above is accurate, just pointing to a way of reasoning through the lines.
 

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Klann,

There's many ways of dealing with many changing lines. I suggest finding what works best for you and going with it. For me it's like a story, as with multiple readings. Sometimes just grasping how the two hexagrams relate to my question is good enough, or it gives me a solid foundation to work with the sequential lines.

Deciphering each of many lines is more work, and in my opinion, it's not always necessary; anymore than it would be to make a study of every scene in a play. If you learn to view them as a play, you get the idea rather quickly of the theme.

For example one might interpret 2.1,3,4,5,6 as:

The beginning was chilly, but it felt right: reason to hope. Then you (and/or she) become introspective and secretive, and withdrew, to emerge more balanced and sure of yourselves, whereupon you have a major fight. Now you're just friends.

No idea if the above is accurate, just pointing to a way of reasoning through the lines.

Thank you for the suggestion!!
I usually read everything and try to find what "works best for me" but I tend to read in optimism in every interpretation and I don't think that's a very accurate approach :eek:
That's why I wanted to hear other people's opinions re this kind of reading, to know what to do.

As for your interpretation: well, the beginning was, actually, just a contact. We never even started the relationship. After that, there was a pause (we live in different towns) during which I was trying to make occasional contacts (via email), he was a bit aloof, and then I stopped. And then, after a while, a month ago, he contacted me. Now I'm a bit baffled, wodering where it's all going...
That's what it was all about. :)
 
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Ah, sorry for the gender error.

2 is also open, so you can use the same process concerning openness, yours and/or his.

I will say that my experience with 2.6 is that it's been typically a lot of concern over concern, and hasn't amounted to much more. Perhaps it's this worry or tension which is preventing you both from being friends. In other words, rather than trying to define it by making it a thing, just enjoying an open (2) friendship (13).
 

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