63.6 and 64.6

[rosada]

Just noticing how After Completion and Before Completion both end with comments about ”soaking your head.” Any thoughts on that?

 

[Benthos]

I am sorry if my questions sounds dumb or trivial, what is being completed? Maybe knowing this could help understand what the "soaking" issue is about. What has been completed in 63, but is still unfinished in 64?

 

[surnevs]

I am sorry if my questions sounds dumb or trivial, what is being completed? Maybe knowing this could help understand what the "soaking" issue is about. What has been completed in 63, but is still unfinished in 64?

In Hex. 1 all lines is unbroken. Hex. 2 they are broken. Hex. 63 the broken lines are positioned on Yin lines ie. 2,4,6. & unbroken lines are positioned on Yang lines ie. 1,3,5 and in Hex. 64 the broken and unbroken lines are NOT in their proper places. So after Hex. 1 and Hex. 2 have been intermingled in quite a long journey they finally reach their proper and right positions in Hex. 63, Completed. And as the Nature of waxing and waning when reaching each peak what has not been completed is present: Hex. 64. Or something like that, like when the Sun reached its peak during the day it can't reach any higher and starts its setting and then all over again...

 

[dobro p]

Just noticing how After Completion and Before Completion both end with comments about ”soaking your head.” Any thoughts on that?

Dunno. But notice also that 64.1 talks about 'wetting his tail', which connects of course with the main text of 63. It seems that completing a process, whether it's accomplished (63) or not accomplished yet (64) has features which can be referred to by the same symbol.

 

[hilary]

I am sorry if my questions sounds dumb or trivial, what is being completed? Maybe knowing this could help understand what the "soaking" issue is about. What has been completed in 63, but is still unfinished in 64?

That is a very good 'teaching' question.

 

[my_key]

As with the functionality of the Mobius Strip, there needs to be a twist in the structure, so that the 63/64 'end' can loop round and become a new beginning'

63 AlreadyFulfilled comes to a concluding line that is steeped in failure. The things that needed to be set right have not yet been set right. The preparations for the crossing were all in place but here the effort to make the crossing has not been sufficient. Perhaps the focus was placed on the preparations being completed rather than paying attention to completing the river part too. For whatever reason, the paddling stopped and the boat was carried away by the strong currents. Here stranded mid river there is a sense of perilous uncertainty especially when the boat overturns in the cross currents and all the focus now turns to keeping ones head above water. The soakings of 63.6 ensue.

64 Not Yet Fulfilled carries in it's concluding line the sense of accomplishment and the rightful celebrations of a job well done getting to the shallows on the other side. Focus turns to the partying before fully getting out of the rive. A few too many sherbets on top of the exhaustion brought about by the endeavours of the crossing and as Little Jim so eloquently pronounces in the Goon Shows of yore "He's fallen in the Water".
The vigour that was brimming at the start of the venture was not sufficient to see things through right to the end. A self inflicted wound from counting your chickens before they had hatched. You snooze and you loose. Party before the time is right ( make sure you are right out of the river!!) and you end up splayed on your back with your head submerged. The 64.6 version of the head soaking.

Two head soakings for two different reasons yet each provides the twist that allows for the reel of fortune to be lengthened.

 

[Liselle]

As with the functionality of the Mobius Strip, there needs to be a twist in the structure, so that the 63/64 'end' can loop round and become a new beginning'

Interesting comparison.

 

[Benthos]

In Hex. 1 all lines is unbroken.

Binary code 000001

Hex. 2 they are broken.

Binary code 000010

Hex. 63 the broken lines are positioned on Yin lines ie. 2,4,6. & unbroken lines are positioned on Yang lines ie. 1,3,5

Binary code 111111

and in Hex. 64 the broken and unbroken lines are NOT in their proper places.

Binary code 1000000 (or without the first 1, 000000, if you want to replace it (symbolically) to make it circular.)

So after Hex. 1 and Hex. 2 have been intermingled in quite a long journey

so this is what it is about, the long journey, after the completion of the journey or when its not completed yet

they finally reach their proper and right positions in Hex. 63, Completed. And as the Nature of waxing and waning when reaching each peak what has not been completed is present: Hex. 64. Or something like that, like when the Sun reached its peak during the day it can't reach any higher and starts its setting and then all over again...

Deep, my friend. thats really deep. Thank you.

 

[Benthos]

Just noticing how After Completion and Before Completion both end with comments about ”soaking your head.” Any thoughts on that?

(Karcher)

Hexagram 63 line 6
"You soak your head. Adversity, the angry souls and the angry ghosts."
Hexagram 64 line 6
"This is not a mistake, soak your head.
There is connection to the spirits in letting go of what is past."

In hexagram 63 you should have not soaked anything yet, at least not your head, it was not time. Now you have nasty problems stemming from the past. If soaking means really washing and dyeing, this could be very interesting.
In hexagram 64 its correct to soak your head. You drink (you wash and dye, its what i think it could mean) and you let go of the past (colours).

The difference could be as simple as in hexagram 63 everything seems in order to drink, to be happy, but the piece produced is not ready to wash and dye yet. You have to first deal with old problems. Loose ends, angry ghosts, inner demons. In hexagram 64 everything is alright and its ok to drink. You are crossing from 64 to 1. Time to give things a new colour or action is needed now. Time to move on. Time to become an inmortal dragon in hex 1 again. Its an interesting topic.

What do you think?

 

[surnevs]

On #8,

Hi Benthos, Oh yes - I apologize, I should have mentioned that I held my thoughts up on the king Wen sequence. The sequence as represented by Shao Yung comes up in such a different way that it can cause confusion in this.