A Dragon Might Wake ?

[Trojina]

hEX 1, LINE 1

 

[philippa]

What a coincidence! I was wondering about this line yesterday.

There are many line 1s that seem to suggest a hint of movement or a desire for movement. But I wonder if 1.1 contains the most potential setting things in motion?

Philippa

 

[Trojina]

I don't know why i see the dragon asleep, some would say he is not even out of his egg yet. Most commentaries say its just not at all the right time for him to emerge. Hes not ready or the worlds not ready for him. I don't know if hes still growing or just resting. Karchers dragon is under water, Bradfords dragon is still in his egg. Either way hes not ready yet.

 

[rosada]

I feel this line discribing a dragon in water, or a dragon asleep means "dragon" is conciousness and the water is the unconcious. So 1.1 discribes a dragon/idea forming in the unconcious but it is not yet coalisced enough to be recognized as separate from all the other random impulses floating around in the sleep of the unconcious. So perhaps at this state our dragon is "A Dream" needing more time/development/more conciousness alignment to "come true".

This thought is not as clear as I would like it to make it, but I can"t fiddle with it right now as I have errands I must run. How's that for an example of 1.1? A half formed idea who's time has not yet come!

 

[mudpie]

wow, excellent analysis of 1.1. I love the idea of dragon as consciousness......and the water as unconscious.
It reminds me of the womb and how the embryo/fetus is surrounded by water as it forms and develops. Also the biblical story of creation.......water figures pretty significantly in that too..."and the earth was without form, and void; and the darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." Genesis, of course. the beginning of the beginning

 

[rosada]

Your biblical referances now spark me to think of Jesus telling his mother when she asked him to perform a miracle at the wedding, "My time has not yet come." Yet he turned the water into wine anyway. Perhaps part of life is being forced to begin before we feel entirely ready!

hmmm...Could the story of there being light after God said, "Let there be light" , and the story of Jesus responding to his mother's request for help both be examples of 1.2 "Seeing the Great Man"? Like, the potential is in our unconcious (water) but it takes a higher conciousness (God/Great Man) to draw it out. Or, as in the example with Jesus, can we bring forth our higher conciousness/Great Man ourselves, by responding to a request for help?

 

[mudpie]

Wonderful thoughts. You need to write that book.

Dragon appearing in the field in 1.2....this kind of reminds me of something too.

The "field" is responsive to thought. The thought emerges from the depths, and allows itself to be defined, "visible." This is the begiinning of any creative process. The Great Man could indeed be higher consciousness, the Creator, and this Creator being any one of us who allows a clear, precise, purposeful thought/intention to emerge. There needn't be conscious effort, more the willingness to allow for this process, to "let."
and the need for the "field" to be uncluttered, pristine, readied. A thought held in the substance with steady intention begins to manifest.

 

[bruce_g]

Love these Biblical and Yi corresponding analogies. It actually makes symbolic sense of a book (books really) that’s been interpreted altogether too literally.

Another I like, from John 1.1 (corresponding to hex. 1.1) – “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.” This speaks of the pre-incarnate Jesus – the dragon – which ‘comes forth in the sign of The Arousing (thunder)’ – the first born son of heaven and earth. Symbolically the dragon and the Word are synonymous.

1.2 – The Word incarnate: dragon appearing in the field.

I tried explaining this to my old pastor once. Thought he was going to have me tar and feathered.

 

[rosada]

!. Ch'ien / The Creative

THE JUDGEMENT

THE CREATIVE works sublime success,
Furthering through perseverance.

THE IMAGE

The movement of heaven is full of power,
Thus the superior man makes himself strong and untiring.

THE LINES

1.1 Hidden dragon. Do not act.

1.2 Dragon appearing in the field.
It furthers one to see the great man.

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I just thought it would be helpful to have the actual lines we are discussing before us.

My primary goal at this time is to memorize the I Ching. I'm amazed at how many of the little couplets have already stuck in my mind since we have been doing these exercises of taking the lines in order. What's really neat is how sometimes I'll be in a situation and a couplet will occur to me and, lo, it fits! Like IChing is giving me answers before I even ask the questions. For example, when I was musing about what to do with the unfinished I Ching on the I Ching thread the thought came to me, "An old well.." and that's exactly what it was. And even more amazing, when I shared that thought with you, Bruce and Void brought it to conclusion right away. Like, if you can just accurately identify the problem that in itself can do alot towards getting things moving. So anyway, I'm really keen on memorizing.

By the way, Willow was asking about a file here on this site where one can find hexagrams and questions organized in order. That would be the "hexagram index." It is listed in the blue column 6th from the bottom to the left on this page.

 

[rosada]

further thoughts...Wouldn't it be interesting to have an I Ching that gives the scripture from various religions for each of the lines. Like, what does the Koran say that would fit line 1.1?

 

[Trojina]

No I think Willow meant something else, not the hex index. I remember it too, it wasn't people posing a query and others answering it was just a persons experience with a hex or line.

 

[getojack]

In regards to Rosada's suggestion about different religious takes on the I Ching, what do you all think about 1.1 in regards to Buddhism? Perhaps meditation/non-action? In Chinese, "wu wei"?