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Tim K

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It's a recurring theme in my dreams - flying, or should I say levitating. One of my favourites :)
I don't need an airspeed to maintain the height (flight-level).

I just walk, and then with each step I take I consciously push myself upward. Feet by feet, slowly I rise up to various heights - depending on the mood maybe?
It can be just 2-3 stories up, Power-Lines high, or a skyscraper high.

Usually there are people on the ground, but after I gain enough altitude they don't notice me.
Although in the beginning they do notice, but it feels ok they don't bother me.

So I decided to ask Yi, what does it mean? Flying/levitating by conscious effort.

I disagree completely with the lines text - especially with line 6.. It doesn't fit at all here.

But just looking at the trigrams - I can see an answer - Being sincere and care-free, flowing with the time,
moving Up according to the heaven, can give you unexpected Movement. Double flying trigrams.
Up and Up you go.

What do you think guys?
 

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But just looking at the trigrams - I can see an answer - Being sincere and care-free, flowing with the time,
moving Up according to the heaven, can give you unexpected Movement. Double flying trigrams.
Up and Up you go.

Apparently this is in keeping with Carl Jung's understanding of what flying often meant to his patients.

"Carl Jung's idea was that in a flying dream we are expressing our desire to break free of restrictions and limitations. We have a desire to be free and above all difficulties."

"Flying can mean getting above yourself; liberation; extend the range of your consciousness."

"Jung noted certain dream symbols that possess the same universal meaning for all men and women. He terms this phenomenon the 'collective unconscious'. While dreams are personal, your personal experiences often touch on universal themes and symbols. These symbols are believed to occur in every culture throughout history."

Also, I don't want to make any assumptions but it seems to me this would make sense from my understanding that you wanted to live entirely off of prana, if I remember correctly? I suppose it wouldnt be going to far to imagine that you probably do want to elevate your consciousness or in some way rise above the physical world somehow, maybe your desire to fly is one and the same?

I wanted to originally quote this fascinating documentary called 'the way of the dream' but I couldn't remember exactly what the female jungian analyst had said about flying, although I know she mentioned it perhaps several times. Instead I googled what jung thought about flying, though, If you're at all interested, (or for anyone else who might be) here is part one of that documentary. It is absolutely fascinating and quite frankly changed the way I view myself and my dreams. About a month ago I had a horrible dream, the worst I ever had. I woke up crying, extremely shaken, and after having watched this documentary in all it's parts I'm so much more at peace now and I feel that the dream was fundamentally useful for me, once I finally understood it.

And I apologize for not being able to comment directly on your reading, I realized unless I feel totally confident with my answer I'd better let the more experienced users offer their comments, which I'm sure they will :)

[video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vttgYRQ9PI[/video]
 

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Hi Ash

I don't have a ready explanation for your reading but I recognize your dream, it is recurring dream-theme for me. I've had dreams in which I could fly for as long as I can remember.

I had them a lot when I was just a kid, sometimes the dreams were beautiful and sometimes they became terrifying. I dreamt that I pushed up (like you) and I would get at the some level as the roof of our house. I pushed again and I would reach the treetops and so-on. Those dreams were fun, and when I woke up I would sometimes still feel dizzy with a sense of freedom. But sometimes when I pushed in my dreams I would push to far, shooting up towards the night-sky (somehow it was always night in my flying dreams) with a speed and lightness that terrified me because I had no control. When the fear became all encompassing I would start to fall. I would wake up and still feel myself falling, scary stuff.

Years ago I nearly died because of a stomach problem. In the operating room I had a near-death experience. After this experience I had a wave of dreams in which I could fly. Every time I woke up it felt as if I was falling out of the sky into my bed.

I believe these dreams can sometimes be out of body experiences. I became convinced of this after my near-death experience. I started writing my dreams down and found that oftentimes my dreams would make sense to me years after I wrote them down. Keeping a dream-diary really helps me to make sense of my dreams.

I looked up Lises explanation of hex 25

Connect your soul to heaven and nature instead of human matters. Live the fullness of a natural and open life, allow your soul to go deep and high, do not stay on the common road where everything is mediocre. Enjoy beauty and happiness, energy and love, so sorrow and fears cannot get hold on you. Where everything is full of life, decay can find no place.

Seems to be a firm referral to your recurring dream theme.

And 51
The shock that starts a new time, a new period, a new life, or a new look on (attitude towards) life. Repeated shocks are necessary, because the new does not stay new, it gets loaded again with securities. Time after time one has to renew the universal laws within oneself, get in contact again with the cosmic forces, cosmic truth. It is the appearance of the signs.

You speak of recurring dreams: "Repeated shocks are necessary". I think that your dreams are trying to tell you something, definitely when they keep popping up.

I am no Yi specialist, so I will stay out of any deeper interpretations ;) Hope this helps a little!
 
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In my opinion the nuclear hexagram tells me what the I Ching is responding on, and it fits in Your case: hexagram 53 is about "the wild goose flying..."
The top line is pointed out according to the "NanJing-rules" (whether this rules are correct or not I don't know, but here a serious attempt has been made to distinguish between multiple moving lines...).
Anyway, the movement occurs in the upper, outer or going trigram from Heaven to Thunder: From the creative to the arousing. What have been working in the head will be set in to physical action = Heaven works in the head as Thunder works in the foot, or: I guess You should be prepared for considering - not just action - the proper way for Your next move... Thunder is also East were a man receives orders from his master. Do it the correct way.
 
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@Pearlescent
"in a flying dream we are expressing our desire to break free of restrictions and limitations. We have a desire to be free and above all difficulties."

I think that's right, even if don't fly for real, at least in my dreams I can. I want to be free, I do want to lift all the limitations. Including the need to eat food, yes. But these dreams started before thoughts about prana.

I'll definitely watch the documentary you mentioned, thanks.


@dancingfox
It's nice to hear that someone else is having the same dreams :)
Gives a feeling of togetherness, community of some sort.

I know these fast-flights, you were getting close to OOBE/astral projection, if only you hadn't been so scared.
These are the most premium and valuable events in a dream! Ooh these intense feelings of gravity/pulling/falling they make you remember the dream in all the detail. I usually just fall back, accelerating to a very high speed and then Bang! I'm in another mental state, in cosmos, or once I went to the Moon.

And return feels the same - being pulled back/falling back, and sometimes you still feel it for an hour, being very very heavy pressing the bed down with your weight.

LiSe's commentaries are very beatiful and inspiring, thanks.

especially this one feels very close to my heart:
do not stay on the common road where everything is mediocre

I think the recent dream is connected to my other reading about LoA and 46-25 (25 again).
Where 46 symbolizes my pushing up in a dream.

@svenrus You also mention the gradual progress (53) and line 6 as going to the next level/plane of existence.
Wonderful line!
Again there is a connection to LoA, imagine it and manifest it.

The proper way yes, I'm trying to find a solution to moving abroad to a warmer country (Malaysia to the East would be great!, or Thailand, or Fiji, or someone mentioned in another thread the Philippines).

Something gotta give.. I'll keep practicing the vizualisation.
 
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25 and flying

Have been giving hex 25 a lot of thought. I have had several castings where the outcome had been very auspicious. I too fly in my dreams - it feels like soaring to another level - aiming high and finding the power to achieve.
 
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I remembered what my grandmother told me about flying. She said it was good knowing how to fly and to fly as high - almost soaring above. It only came to me thinking about hex 25 and the cactus. She was not a well read woman - indeed she only read with difficulty - but came from a family where the extraordinary was somehow normal. Like flying - she said that knowing how to fly and practicing in our dreams was useful for leaving this life and going to the one waiting for us. She said that soaring upwards - leaving behind the things we no longer needed or clinging to the people we needed to leave meant we could continue our life journey.

Thank you for reminding me of this - you have re affirmed the wisdom of my ancestors. My Auntie (my nans sister) used to say that she could fly on her magic carpet and we used to sit on it and listen to stories. I used to think that she was making up the fact that she used to fly on it - she was very old and had very bad feet - but maybe she really did use it for flying

Thanks Ashteroid and happy flying
 

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Flying carpets are real - one soul mentioned it in Dolores Cannon's book!
In those times people used levitation to go places, but when they needed to transport multiple objects - it was easier to levitate focusing only on the carpet.
 

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I want to thank Pearlescent one more time for pointing me to the documentary about dreams.

I've read some books on lucid dreaming when I was trying to have astral projections/oobe.
There was some info on the meaning of dreams, but not much.

After watching 2h:11m of the first video I went to sleep with a strong motivation to hear my unconscious (UC).
And man what a night that was! I've never worked so hard during the night. I had 3 or 4 dreams and every time I woke up I immediately started to decipher them.
And for the first time I think I did understand what UC was saying!
Today I was in a very good mood, feeling upbeat and at the same time serene and calm.

I've watched the film some more and got to the point about miracles in the dreams.
Miracles in a dream show you that they are possible! When you don't believe in something, UC shows you, inspires you to continue, to open one's mind to new possibilities.
As an example woman saw a live robot made of diamonds and metal wires/links.

p.s. Now I need to find out the meaning of water. Sleeping on water (lake), being submerged in water up to the belly etc.
 
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awesome, I'm glad you checked it out! It's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. I'm so glad it was helpful to you! There are more parts if you look them up. Also I think, I'm not totally sure, but water is the emotions, and the divine feminine, the nourishing receptive ect. It may even represent the subconscious itself in the form of the ocean, or deep waters that you can't quite see to the bottom of. Although as they mention dream dictionaries are a basically no-go and that it's serious business, actually interpreting dreams, I think it would be interesting to google what Jung thought about dreams of water. The state of the water will tell you a lot, is it placid, is it flowing, is it deep and scary, is it dirty, is it life affirming, ect.

I actually asked the yi recently about remembering past lives in my dreams, which there are many guided meditations for, but it seems that I'll be able to just consistently ask my subconscious about it and I'll eventually get there. How quickly your subconscious reacted to your desire to listen to it is very encouraging lol

Btw I also wanted to mention when I said about how your desire to fly and your desire to exist off of prana possibly being one and the same, what I meant was that deep within you is probably this original desire that those are both symptoms of, as opposed to one being a product of the other ^_^ if that makes sense
 

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Prana, flying - of course they are both the symptoms of wanting more magic in my life, look at my avatar :)

I think I still remember my origin - a being of light. How easy it was to live in that state, instant manifestation, teleportation, having no worries, just living in a pure bliss.
 

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