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Following - Exhaustion 17.2.3 > 47 (two days in a row), - can anyone help please?

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Following - Exhaustion 17.2.3 > 47 (two days in a row), - can anyone help please?

Hi Everyone,
Following > Exhaustion
I've had 17.1.2 > 47 for two days in a row now in answer to roughly the same enquiry and I'm struggling a bit with the meaning, especially as lines one and two seem to conflict. I'm really keen to understand this and I'm obviously supposed to, or I wouldn't have received it twice. I'd be really grateful for any insight or experience with these lines.
I'm not having a brilliant time at the moment and on Saturday in a somewhat despairing moment and with everything (failed relationship, job I don't really like, feelings of having screwed up etc etc) whirling around my head, I asked 'What's the answer to all of this?' (17.1.2.>47) I read the Wilhelm and Anthony translations, but at the time didn't have access to any others. I felt that I was being shown a choice of life path in 17 but what to follow? 47 was clear, - I am exhausted from recent events and I know that I have to pull myself together and 'stake my life on following my will' although I'm so confused I don't even recognise the true nature of my will at the moment.

The following day, I asked again, - 'Please show me an image of my correct life path' and again 17.1.2 >47.
The problem I have is that now having read Karcher, and also Lises wonderful translation, I'm confused with the two lines.
1. Leave your old life behind, following this influence will transform you
2. You have picked the wrong impulse to follow, you will end up alone

Karcher seems to imply negativity in line two, but both seem to me to bear equal weight, especially in Lises version.

I suppose my confusion lies in sensing them as distinct options yet not knowing which lines advice to take or to what they refer. Are they both about my personal development, in which case how do they relate to my external circumstances which at the moment seem sometimes unbearable to me and most definitely in need of change, - an attitude change or an actual physical change? I have a certain degree of freedom in my circumstances and am no longer tied to anything really, other than a job which I don't really need to do, and a close, rather ambiguous 'friendship' with my ex. I've always hoped that I could continue my art and writing, and I wonder if this is the path I should focus on to the exclusion of all others.
I don't want to ask more questions of the I Ching until I have made a concerted effort to understand these lines and I'd be very grateful for some help.
Thank you
 
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I don't want to ask more questions of the I ching until I have made a concerted effort to understand these lines

believe me this is like music to the ears..................

Your hexes/lines are about an attitude - a head space - and sorry I don't mean to be enigmatic but I have to go to work but if you still want help when I get home - I'll give it a go.

Lucia
 

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The lines are not contradicting, they work together. I don't know how to apply to your situation but the reading suggests moderation.

line 2 tells you not to be scared and have the courage and strength to go on.
line 4 tells you that if you are too strong in your attitude you gonna hurt someone/something
 
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Hi Cate,

17.2.3> 43 (not 47 :) )

its about the child and the adult we have inside, i think. And 43 say we have to tell i a very decisive way who can/ should do that. Sometime we send the child to do something its of an adult's work and v.v

I found it a very nice reading .

Maria

edit. forgot to say that also is about the "small" things and the "big" things , whatever means that to someone
 
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Hex 17.2.3 - 43 Kuai

Hi Cate,
Hex 17.2.3 - 43
Hex 17 is all about following your path with faith and belief in yourself. Lines two and three don't contradict each other, they're saying the same thing: Line 2 is urging you to discipline your clamoring ego with its doubts and fears - the Resultant Hexagram created when this line changes (the Zhi Gua) is Hex 58 - Tui, which is all about maintaining your will and not being led astray by negative elements.
Line 3 is urging you to follow the stronger elements in your sense of purpose and direction - the Zhi Gua, Hex 49 Revolution/Molting represents a change in attitude - cast off (molt) any negative doubts and renew your self belief.
The overall resultant hexagram 43 - Kuai, Resoluteness/Parting is urging you strengthen your resolve and part with negative elements.
Hope this helps.
Peter
 

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Thanks for the prompt responses, especially Maremaria who has noticed my glaring error, - a measure of my exhaustion! I wrote the first post at work without my original reading in front of me. It was most definitely lines 1 and 2 which lead to 47.
Huge apologies for confusion at the outset. I've now edited my OP to reflect this.
I feel that having looked at the correct lines there is even more of a duality to them, - I'm just not sure how to determine which area of my life they are commenting on, - or maybe all of it?
Thanks
 

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Lucia,gato, Maria, and Peter,

Thank you all so much for being kind enough to respond to my post, and again, apologies for muddling the lines. I'm still determined to understand them and have been giving them a lot of thought. One thing I think I've realised is that 'Following' seems to be about following ones true nature, following yourself almost. I know this may sound obvious to many people, but for me it's quite a breakthrough, and I think representative of my general lack of self-understanding.

One thing I thought about last night was Karchers use of the words 'Impulse' and 'Influence', in his explanation of lines 1 and 2. I thought about this in the light of what you all had said generally about 17. An impulse seems to come from within, - it's self generated, whilst an influence seems to be external. Karcher seems to say that the external 'influence' was possibly negative, whilst the internal 'impulse' could be trusted. This made a lot of sense particularly with regard to the influence. I now have to examine myself for the source and nature of the impulse. I feel a lot clearer, and I just wanted to thank you all for your responses.

I also wanted to make some sort of apology for my lack of input with other peoples queries. I always read them, but have often felt in the past that I'm not balanced or stable enough to offer advice. I fully intend to address this, as people on here have been so helpful to me.
Thank you, Cate
 

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