Re: How will I meet my life-partner, destiny?

[indra]

Re: How will I meet my life-partner, destiny?

Hi,

Some issues have been personally bothering me and with no immediate answers to these questions. I have decided to ask the great and wise oracle concerning my questions?

So my question is that are these positive or negative answers as I do imagine that things continally change and so these answers recieved could be wrong as well. Thanks for your help

a.) Higher self: How will I meet my life-partner?

1. Ch'ien / The Creative
Observed changes at the following lines @ . 1 . 3 . 5
This was followed by the second hexagram 63. after completion

The Judgement
The Creative works sublime success,
Furthering through perseverance.

The Image
The movement of heaven is full of power.
Thus the superior man makes himself strong and untiring.

The Lines
Change at the beginning means:
Hidden dragon. Do not act.

Change in the third place means:
All day long the superior man is creatively active.
At nightfall his mind is beset with cares.
Danger. No blame.

Change in the fifth place means:
Flying dragon in the heavens.
It furthers one to see the great man.


63. Chi Chi / After Completion

The Judgement
After Completion. Success in small matters.
Perseverance furthers.
At the beginning good fortune,
At the end disorder.

The Image
Water over fire: the image of the condition
In After Completion.
Thus the superior man
Takes thoughts of misfortune
And arms himself against it in advance.

 

[em ching]

Hello - I am no expert so I'll say what came to mind for me re. this reading.
I think that in order to meet with your destiny/ partner/ make the most of positive opportunities that life has to offer you need to be strong and have faith in yourself (the Creative) and take action when you feel instinctively that it is right - and not hesitate? ie you are strong enough and accomplished enough to reach for what you want?

Changing to 63 could perhaps mean that you need to continue working on your inner strength and that, as you said, things change and developments can have positive or negative affects and if you don't maintain/ nurture what you have already worked on you could slip back again - from past readings of 63 the hex suggets that you have accomplished a lot - done the groundwork as it were - and now that needs to be maintained/ have a firm backing - perhaps your inner strength? as a strong base for what you have achieved and can continue to achieve.. ie The Creative? meaning that you still need to work on life and not become complacent so that things continue to improve? It seems quite positive, suggesting that things are good at the mo and will continue to be so if you maintain it... then good things should come of their own accord? hmm..

I hope that was helpful and not too general...
I'm not sure that I'm well enough equipped at the mo to interpret other's answers in a way that is personally relevant to you, and gives you practical tools to take from the hexagrams and apply to your daily life to attract what you desire..

 

[applegirl]

I agree with em_ching, I think your reading is about being strong in yourself, getting out there and 'doing'. I think 63 might be suggesting that maybe you sometimes dwell on the past a little, that 'after completion' of things maybe you stay stuck there and that might give you difficulty with moving on? I usually interpret the resulting hexagram as the inner force or even unconscious motivation behind the first hexagram. That's how it seems to pan out for me anyway, so if I read your reading like that, what may be motivating you unconsciously is dwelling on things completed and maybe that's stopping you going forward?

I'm not very experienced with the iChing but this reading just seemed to speak to me. I hope it helps you

Applegirl

 

[hilary]

Either I've lost my mind (not impossible), or 1.1.3.5 takes you to hexagram 64 - Not Yet Across, incompletion.

A first thought in response to this: it's natural to think of 'meeting a life partner' as a single event. Someone's your life partner, and you meet them; then you've met. But the reading seems to be stretching this idea - right across the whole length of the I Ching. You can meet a now-partner now, and as you continue to 'meet' them throughout your life, you're gradually meeting your life-partner.

 

[martin]

Looks to me as if the Yi decribes 3 phases in the process of finding a partner.

Line 1: We are not looking for a partner yet. We are happy to be alone.

Line 3: Frantic searching, but without much success. If we meet potential partners they soon turn out to be wrong for us. Or they are not really interested, not available, and so on. Or we have doubts about him/her ourselves.
It may seem that 'fate' is against us in this phase. But that's basically because we are trying to push the river with our little self and don't give 'fate' a chance. We are out of sync with the Tao.

Line 5: Now the little self begins to step aside and 'fate' or whatever name you have for it (the deeper or higher self, the great man, the Tao, the great river ..) can take over.
If a 'destined' partner appears - that is possible now but not certain - it is often suddenly, unexpected, perchance. And unrelated to the efforts in line 3.


These are phases that most of us go through, I think, and not only when we are looking for our life partner. Somehow the frantic, nervous, anxious seeking of our little me (in line 3) has to exhaust itself before 'it' can happen.

And yes, not sure where my mind is, but I also think that the change is to hexagram 64 ..

 

[petrosianii]

Excellent, important question, Indra. Perhaps the most important question there is.

I have been pondering a similar relationship question lately, myself.

Here are the beginnings of my interpretation of your readings:

Hexagram #1: The Creative

#1 represents, or symbolizes, your Animus. The Animus is a term from Jungian psychology, and refers to the male energy within the female. This Animus is an archetype - a sort of ideal concept or image - that manifests in your unconscious. (For more detail on the Animus and Jungian archetypes, click here).

Here is an excerpt from my philosophical counseling blog, to help you understand the Animus' role:

Conversely, the Animus is the symbolic image in the female psyche of masculine attributes and potentials. As with the male Anima, a greater understanding and integration of the female Animus with consciousness leads women to healthier relationships with men. Like the Anima, the female Animus is an aggregate of the woman's internalized ideas of her father, and springs from the nature of that relationship. Examples of the Animus include 'The Hunk," "The Hero," "The Jock," "The Nerd," "The Nutty Professor," the "Knight in Shining Armor," "John Wayne," etc.

Thus, my take on your receiving hexagram #1 with respect to the relationship inquiry involves the following:

1. Cultivate Yang (male) energy
2. Be proactive in seeking out your mate
3. You have enough creative energy to find your mate
4. Get in touch more with your unconscious Animus
5. In short, you may achieve your aim by cultivating the traditionally "masculine" qualities, which all women possess in some measure. e.g., assertiveness, aggressiveness, action, movement, proactivity, becoming solution-oriented, etc. (NOTE: This is not meant to be sexist).

Hexagram #64: Before Completion (Not yet fording)

As #1 symbolizes the (female) Animus, hexagram #64 symbolizes what Jung called the Shadow.
(For a fuller treatment of how I map the four atomic hexagrams onto Jung's four basic archetypes, read this article.)

Here is an excerpt to help you get a grasp on the concept of the "Shadow":

The Shadow is the negative complement to the Self ... The Shadow, therefore, is the "dark side" of the Self, so to speak. It embodies the (mostly hidden) instinctual drives and desires of the personality which produce chaos, destruction, disorder, deterioration, moral danger...

The Self and the Shadow are like the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde of the psyche.

Both your Animus and Shadow are manifest only in your unconscious self. Therefore, part of the interpretation of your reading, at least to me, is that you will find your heart's desire only by plumbing the depths of your own personal unconscious. You must travel deep within, until you find the "gold in the dungeon," so to speak.

I suspect in your case (as was in mine) that your Shadow is really what's blocking you, hindering you, tripping you up, preventing you from really finding your true soul mate. My hunch (though I could be wrong) is that you suspect you may have already found this mate - but it is your Shadow-self, which will not let you see it, or believe it, or consummate it.

A final note:

To me your reading suggests that you must cultivate your more "masculine" traits before you will be able to overcome the haunting Shadow that has kept you from your soul mate.

 

[diamanda]

Hello,

I personally don't believe in destiny, but i do believe it is possible to meet people
who are so compatible with us that we can 'build' long-lasting (or even life-long)
relationships.

1 speaks of how we should always try to do the right thing, be our best self.
Ok so with that as our starting point, and assuming we are at our best, and always
strive to be active and correct, then we begin to examine the conditions around us.

1:1 - shows how one remains hidden, in times which are obviously not right for action.
The person described here is correct, with great qualities, but the time is not right,
for whatever reason. Perhaps a break-up, or a move to a foreign country, could be
anything really, or perhaps just too many practical problems, as the next line suggests.

1:3 - this describes a situation where the individual is just too busy. There are far
too many things to do, far too many worries, and too many practical details to take
care of. "This is not a mistake", as, tiresome as chores are, they need to be taken
care of, as they guarantee our survival. Obviously, again this is not a great time to
think of finding a partner.

1:5 - Finally the time comes for the dragon to fly. To open his wings and be seen.
That in turn means that like-minded dragons (metaphorically of course!) will be
drawn. You finally get to meet someone.

64 - when that happens, be very cautious and see how it goes (perhaps because we're
all human, and even if we meet an excellent prospective partner, one of the two of
us might still mess the whole thing up...).

In a few words then it sounds to me that the advice is:
Always make sure you develop your character, are active, and do the best you can.
Do not act if you are not developed, do not act when the time is wrong.
Once you have matured and developed character, take care of chores and survival.
When all this is done, then go out and meet people.
And then be careful and cautious with the relationship which is just forming.

So, this is how you'll meet him!
If only it was as easy as it sounds eh!

 

[indra]

Hello,

I personally don't believe in destiny, but i do believe it is possible to meet people
who are so compatible with us that we can 'build' long-lasting (or even life-long)
relationships.

1 speaks of how we should always try to do the right thing, be our best self.
Ok so with that as our starting point, and assuming we are at our best, and always
strive to be active and correct, then we begin to examine the conditions around us.

1:1 - shows how one remains hidden, in times which are obviously not right for action.
The person described here is correct, with great qualities, but the time is not right,
for whatever reason. Perhaps a break-up, or a move to a foreign country, could be
anything really, or perhaps just too many practical problems, as the next line suggests.

1:3 - this describes a situation where the individual is just too busy. There are far
too many things to do, far too many worries, and too many practical details to take
care of. "This is not a mistake", as, tiresome as chores are, they need to be taken
care of, as they guarantee our survival. Obviously, again this is not a great time to
think of finding a partner.

1:5 - Finally the time comes for the dragon to fly. To open his wings and be seen.
That in turn means that like-minded dragons (metaphorically of course!) will be
drawn. You finally get to meet someone.

64 - when that happens, be very cautious and see how it goes (perhaps because we're
all human, and even if we meet an excellent prospective partner, one of the two of
us might still mess the whole thing up...).

In a few words then it sounds to me that the advice is:
Always make sure you develop your character, are active, and do the best you can.
Do not act if you are not developed, do not act when the time is wrong.
Once you have matured and developed character, take care of chores and survival.
When all this is done, then go out and meet people.
And then be careful and cautious with the relationship which is just forming.

So, this is how you'll meet him!
If only it was as easy as it sounds eh!

I was in a FORIEGN country, lived in Prague for about 3 Months. Came back a few days ago well you know when you see some-one and you instantly know that this person is going to be your future-wife. It was along these lines, I saw her and instantly knew that she was the mother of my kids. But the funny thing is I didn't do any-thing and just dis-regarded these inner-tuitions and messages.

I suppose that's why I asked the i-ching this particular question I actually was wondering if I do actually end up meeting her in the not to distant future.

 

[em ching]

1:5 - Finally the time comes for the dragon to fly. To open his wings and be seen.
That in turn means that like-minded dragons (metaphorically of course!) will be
drawn. You finally get to meet someone.

I like that! Makes sense that when you can finally express your true self to the world, your true mate, the one who will stick around and be compatible with you on every level, will appear because they will finally be able to see you! Not camouflaged by negativity, or conformity to greater society in an attempt to fit in at the expense of the true self! Sounds so easy... now there's a goal in sight.. it's just consciously getting to grips with the essence of who you are in the first place is the tough bit.. for some...

perhaps you are there Indra!

 

[diamanda]

Very interesting... I'm wondering if in this case then, 1:5 is actually literal about the
'flying'... That for now distance makes it impossible. Then you've got lots of practical
details to take care of. In order to fly back to that country (i'm assuming here that
you meant she lives in Prague?). And then, 64, see how it goes.

Funny how the I Ching always knows the 'real' question your heart wants to ask.

 

[indra]

Yep I believe she lives in prague, wonder what HILARY thinks of this?

 

[hilary]

Who, me?

It certainly makes sense of hexagram 64: the fox on the bank of the river, wondering whether it's safe to cross. Experience says that very often his potential mate is on the opposite bank, and he's not quite sure whether to commit himself. What if it doesn't work and he gets stuck in mid-stream?

I don't think you can take the risk out of this, but I do think you can do as the reading suggested and put the creative force and masculine drive into it. Wake the dragon up and see if he's willing to fly.

 

[indra]

Does any-one have any more views on this particular hexagram I drew. Thanks for your time

 

[dobro p]

Does any-one have any more views on this particular hexagram I drew. Thanks for your time

Not on what you drew, no. But the first thing I noticed about the question you asked is the assumption that you WILL meet a life-partner and that this WILL involve destiny. The reason that it jumped out at me is because your assumptions might not actually work for you, for your life, for your personality. See, some people have to EARN a life partner by making mistakes in 'pre-life partner relationships' and learning from those mistakes. And as for destiny, my understanding is that you have to do a LOT of inner work on yourself before you're qualified to EARN your destiny.

I'm not saying that the woman you met isn't a possible life partner. But if so, if something *that* important and carrying *that* much certainty entered your life, why didn't you jump at the opportunity? Well, because...you're cautious, like that fox in 64, right? In other words, just because destiny is at work doesn't mean people have the insight and strength to take advantage of it. Sometimes the gates of heaven open, and you miss the chance to get inside, either because you're admiring the view or get distracted or worry too much about making a mistake. And if those gates close, then the only option you've got is to get on with making the best of things, like 99% of the rest of us. There are lots of fish in the sea.

 

[indra]

Does willowfox have any-thing to say she's quite intuitive and insightful with these particular readings?

 

[willowfox]

Does willowfox have any-thing to say she's quite intuitive and insightful with these particular readings?

Yes, I do have something to say but if I do then the idiot called twilight will duly knock my interpretation and call it empty rubbish like he has done before because he seems to be under the impression that he is some great I Ching scholar or some such nonsense.


This twilight idiot is just like the other doughnut I had a run in with on this forum a year or so back. Where do these pompous knowalls spring from I wonder? Is there a factory producing them somewhere in the bowls of the Earth perhaps? Or is twilight a mindless robot coming here to dish out nonsense which has very little or nothing to do with the I Ching.

 

[hilary]

Why not post anyway? It's Indra's reading, and Indra's asking for your thoughts... what could that possibly have to do with Twilight?

 

[willowfox]

If it is to happen, it will happen through time. 'How' it will happen is by itself, when it is ready to happen, if it ever happens. This oracle indicates you are concerning yourself with things that are out of your power to influence. Night and day thinking how to achieve it, when in fact it is more likely to be achieved when you have cooled off about it, virtually forgotten about the concern, maybe even given up on it. There is no point thinking about it. Just carry on. It may not happen for ten years. It may happen tomorrow. There is no way you can plan for it, so don't concern yourself with it. Follow more immediate concerns. There is always something 'out of the blue' about meeting people significant to us. It rarely happens through our active seeking. You cannot pre-empt destiny.

Does this really address Indra's question? I think not! It just is a collection of thoughts that have nothing to do with the IC and the hex's he received, isn't it? Empty, devoid of any meaning, silly musings that come from a deranged mind. Perhaps the utterances of a dope fiend.

 

[willowfox]

Why not post anyway? It's Indra's reading, and Indra's asking for your thoughts... what could that possibly have to do with Twilight?

I will think on it.

twilight is knocking my "bus ticket" interpretations as he calls them because he sees them as empty remarks of no value as I had the audacity to go against his interpretation(which I think is wrong, in my opinion anyway) of a hex in another reading. He is adamant that he is right and I am wrong, hence a new war of words has erupted once again on this forum. The superior man or whatever he thinks he is has attacked and will do so again, that is why I am rather hesitant to reply at the moment.

I am getting kind of fed up with this forum as it is the only one where I have been attacked and on several occasions as well by different people. I have never had any problem on any other forum either from fellow readers or querants, this is the only forum where I have come up against, rude, arrogant knowalls like twilight and his ilk.

Perhaps it is time to call it a day here, enough is enough, I come to offer help, not to be attacked.

 

[hilary]

Bus tickets, eh? Well, that takes the quality of debate to new levels. Sleep well, Fox.

 

[Sparhawk]

Dictionary definition​

 

[rosada]

Q: How will I meet my life-partner-destiny?
A: 1.1.3.5>64

Gosh, in view of the fact you actually had someone in mind when you asked this question it seems the I Ching is commenting on that missed opportunity:
1.1 Hidden dragon. You did not act.
1.3. Now you think about it all day and worry about it all night.
1.5 What else can you do but fly back and see this great soul?
0therwise..
64. If you don't complete this, and they truly are your soul mate, all will have been in vain.

 

[rosada]

However, I don't see that as the only way, or even the best way to interpret these lines.
Instead I think the I Ching is responding by not so much telling you exactly how you are going to meet The One, as it is telling you what you should do next to be heading in the right direction. Thus
1.1 Hidden dragon. Realize we are always seeing and being seen. Dress nice!
1.3 The superior man is creatively active. Get out there and live your life!
1.5 Flying dragon in the heavens. You will then connect with others on your same wave length.
64. And when you do, this time follow through!

Okay, still looking for exact answers? Alright..
1.1 You will meet your soul mate by hiding out where they don't know you're watching.
1.3 You will actually be stalking them, which is a little dangerous, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
1.5 At the right moment you will jump out from behind the bushes and expose yourself. Everyone who sees you will count themselves blessed.

64. Now don't lose your nerve..

 

[willowfox]

How will I meet my life-partner, destiny?

1.1.3.5 takes you to hexagram 64

Line 1.1 is telling you that the time has not come yet, you will need to be patience and not to busy yourself with this conundrum, the line says when the time is right you will get what you want.

Line 1.3 says that you are thinking about this partner business way too much, as it will only mess your head up and cause you anxiety, we know you want this special person but just relax like line 1.1 says and wait until the time is right which it definitely is not at the moment.

Line 1.5 Now line 1.5 suggests that eventually a woman will notice you and be attracted to you, so it is for you to get out and about in order to attract that companion but that is for the future.

Hex 64 All this hex is doing is advising you to becareful in the way that you deal with the woman that will eventually come into your life.

So, your answer has not provided a geographic location but it has told you not to despair as you will meet the right woman, in the foreseeable future, so just relax and let it happen, don't try to force an outcome. So stop fantasizing, stop worrying and see what happens between now and next July.