Simple Question?

[arabella]

Asking whether a new romantic interest is feeling as positive about things as I am, and would be in touch again [it is a fairly complex situation], I got the reply 16.4 turning to 2.

The ideas of harmony in 16 sound so encouraging in general. And also the Duke of Chou reading of the fourth line "great is the success which he obtain, his aims take effect on a grand scale."

I'm wondering whether the aims taking effect on a grand scale are his, or mine or both if we are ringing in harmony here? Am I right to assume this reading is so positive?

 

[arabella]

Have just found this in the Clarity Index ....

willowfox
Banned Join Date: Jun 2006


Well, for a yes/no type question it sure does look very positive.

Line 16.4 says great things can be achieved so have no doubt, in other words, if you believe that the spirit lives on, then this is telling you that you are correct in assuming that. Friends gather around you as a hair clasp gathers the hair, so when the spirit arrives in the other place then friends and relatives gather to him/her just like a comb collects hair together.

Hex 2 signifies a positive outcome to the answer.

SO IS THIS LIKELY TO APPLY TO MY QUESTION AS WELL? I MEAN, IN A GENERAL POSITIVE SENSE ANYWAY.

 

[rodaki]

I wouldn't doubt too much about it arabella

take care!

 

[arabella]

Thanx, Rodaki for your reply. I thought the reading from Willow Fox sounded extremely promising, but in the short time I've been with this forum I've had the impression that Willow Fox speaks very particularly to an individual situation, so I was afraid to think that his/her interpretation would necessarily apply in my case, although the hexagrams are the same. If you say it will hold true for me too, I'm very pleased to hear it. This is a relationship I've nurtured a long time as a friendship, and what happens in the long term matters to me a great deal. If it matters to him too then it's been well worth the trouble.

 

[rodaki]

well, I'm not actually saying what the future holds :bag: but this line is such a breather . . no matter what becomes, you will still be fine, in tune with what accords to you . .

 

[arabella]

OK I see what you're saying. Then, if the original question was whether I was likely to hear from him again how would you interpret the hexagram; that if I don't I'm better off not to?

 

[arabella]

Thank you Cloudy for a truly insightful comment as well. I hope you got my private reply.

 

[oponopono]

Hi Arabella,

I'm sorry if I don't add much to your need to know, but I am also just studying the I Ching and can't give you the insight other people here in the forum can.

it's fortunate you put this question out because curiously I have asked only 2 relationship questions in the last month, and to both of them I got this very same answer
16.4 > 2 ...
The fact that the two questions concerned two different man makes it even more interesting, imo!

I''l tell you how I read them, in my intuitive-free-association style...

Man A (new acquaintance, slowly building, him showing interest more and more, me more passive, specially because he is older and my teacher, so I'm not sure I want anything romantic with my dance teacher...) "This approximation to A feels strange and full of hidden agendas - where is our friendship heading to?"

Man B (old story, big big love that just disappeared and never said anything again) "Is there anything I can do inner and outer throughout the month of February to promote a favorable reencounter with B?"

Both answers were 16.4 > 2 asked with one week between them.

Sure that February is not over yet, but I haven't heard anything from B. And meanwhile I found out what were the "hidden agendas" of A - he has a girlfriend! But I did put enthusiasm in our meetings and in our exchange, and the fact is that he is somehow taking me as a pet student and my dancing is therefore improving enormously. I reckon he feels guilty from flirting with me while being committed, I don't know... but he is taking super good care of me. And for me of course romance is out of the question, he is taken.

So it seems this line has more to do with the enthusiasm and the good energy you put in it than necessarily what you expect the outcome to be. I am in peace and happy about the outcome with A, I can tell you that. The disappearing B is something I find no closure for, but maybe the Y is telling me I should in anyway follow my heart, which still very much loves him, and I will be all right. Which doesn't mean we will come together, but means only that I will be all right - somehow.

This was how I read it, in my inexperience. I will tell you should set your mind towards a positive outcome with your beloved, but allow pretty much anything to happen... Maybe the sheer optimism is healing in some way...

Hope it works out for you,
please come back to let us know how it went, I'm particularly interested in this line

Best!
Yoana

 

[arabella]

Yoana, thank you for a practical insight into this reading. It's interesting that two so different situations drew the same hexagrams. I suppose whatever transpires in life, and in relationships, we learn a lot. And so long as it isn't overtly harmful, we take some kind of inspiration or knowledge with us in the end, so do benefit somehow. But that doesn't sound significant or uplifting enough to explain 16.4 in my book. So I'm taking Willow Fox quite seriously that there is more to be seen here in the long term. I hope for you as well.

I have put a lot of care, attention and energy into this relationship, which has been a friendship for more than a year with an ever stronger vibration that I know is becoming [could easily be] a romantic connection. However there also are some emotional things in the way of blithely going forward, issues from the recent past, a tremendous loss, and it's difficult to know how that will settle out [and when] since it isn't my issue to resolve. Meanwhile, it doesn't detract from me to keep on being a friendly, supportive person. Our friendship has been important to both of us for a long while. Unless my instincts are completely dead, the emotional past is the only deterrent to us being far more serious. Until that's taken care of though, there is no future here.

Of course I have no control over how someone else's emotions play out, so must be satisifed with what comes to be: que sera, sera. I will let you know where this goes and maybe we can pin 16.4 down a bit more! Thanks again.

 

[oponopono]

Hi arabella,

I'm sorry what I meant to tell you didn't came out clear enough: I do read 16.4 as a very strong positive omen regarding your specific question. Maybe I speculated to much on my own questions (which are different situations), sorry.
What I do feel regarding both my situations (hence, yours) is that not only a great achievement is down the road somehow, but the process of trusting is in itself important. The enthusiasm and the commitment you put it in is important in itself, and for me that fits your situation perfectly.

On another level, as we have been mostly talking about the line, I also see hex 2 as advising receptivity, that is, you wouldn't be the one taking the first step and making things happen. But you can do a lot with inner strength and resolution...

Do you know Lise's interpretations? I like them a lot

Best luck!
Looking forward to hear about your own "hair clasp" and how it got together...!

Yoana