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I find it very disturbing that everyone is giving so much importance to lines and words interpretations. I always find this the most tedious ways of looking at I Ching.
I think "what the Yi is" and "consult the Yi" are two different things. It can be science, basic, no words, whatever you find the best way to see it. But for consulting you need more than its structure, you need words which tell you something. Or a picture.I find it very disturbing that everyone is giving so much importance to lines and words interpretations.
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I feel sad for I Ching for not having a chance to realize its full potential.
A good example is I Ching itself as its whole structure is built on the basic concept of yin and yang. It has created 64 natural processes out of this basic principle to describe how the universe works. The writings are just descriptions of the 64 processes, and nothing more.
There is a distinct difference between approaches and understandings. I really cannot comprehend how you could interpret something that you do not understand.
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Thank you for all your replies. Now it does makes sense to me.
Sounds to me,
multiple moving lines is way complicated and deep-er than the movie, "Inception".
The only thing which is a bit annoying is telling everyone they have it wrong and you have it right. Maybe you are.. but that approach will turn others off. There are many ways to work with the Yi, and one is not necessarily right and another wrong. Even ways which seem to contradict each other can both be right.I guess at this stage whatever I say will appear to be offensive. From now on, I will focus more on producing results rather than keep on writing something that no one could comprehend now.
Something behind the words, a base, is of course of big value. Translating is very difficult, even the best ones fall short. But I don't think that makes the words superfluous. Maybe for some it does, but I know I myself am not one of those. I'd like to know all, the words and everything behind them.
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A Butcher's Knife
King Hui of Liang was watching his chef cutting up the carcass of an ox. As the chef slid his knife in and out of the ox’s body, his shoulders, feet and knees moved in harmony with his hands. The knife was dancing and the sound of ripping the hide and slicing the flesh were making a kind of music.
The king was marveled. “How did you acquire such skill?”
“I’m interested in learning how things work,” the chef replied, “not just mastering the techniques. When I first worked on an ox, I saw nothing but its body. After three years, I no longer saw it that way. I understood its components and structure. Now I use my mind more than my eyes. My knife follows the anatomy of the ox and makes its way through the cavities and crevices inside the body. I avoid the tendons and ligaments, to say nothing of the bones.
“A good chef has to replace his knife every year. He cleaves with it. A so-so chef needs a new knife every month. He chops with it. I’ve been using my knife for nineteen years and have carved thousands of oxen. But it is as good as a new one.
“I look for spaces between the joints and bones where the thin blade of my knife can move about freely. If I come upon a hard joint, I’ll proceed with caution. I’ll slow down and apply my knife gently along the natural lines of the body. When the carcass comes apart, dropping to the floor like soft mud, I’ll heave a sigh of relief. I’ll feel a sense of satisfaction. I always take good care of my knife.”
“Excellent!” the king was impressed. “You’ve taught me something about life.”
Does anybody use Alfred Huang method of 4 moving lines? Taking the upper of two non-moving lines?
All right, I just read through the posts in this thread and I have a question again. Perhaps a stupid one..
If you have 4 changing lines and you were to read two unmoving lines, should I assume that you are ignoring the 4 moving lines? (e.g. 19.1.2.3.4)
And if that's the case, Yi should have changed the two unmoving lines rather than taking the trouble in moving four? (19.5.6.). Is there a logic behind reading the two unmoving lines?
Details will be appreciated. Many THanks:bows:
Tifa
Science simplifies complex problems to its most basic form; and then constructs complex solutions basing on the the basic principle derived.
A good example is I Ching itself as its whole structure is built on the basic concept of yin and yang. It has created 64 natural processes out of this basic principle to describe how the universe works. The writings are just descriptions of the 64 processes, and nothing more.
A good example is Kan 29. It is actually describing an underground water drainage system. This is a natural phenomenon. What about Li 30 ? It is about an adrenaline rush. Another perfectly natural phenomenon.
I Ching has given us a set of DNA blueprints for the 64 natural processes. It is up to us to manipulate these blueprints for our spiritual evolution. A more powerful view will be : to realize our fullest potential as an individual at first and then as a human being at large.
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