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Am tearing my hair out
in which Yi gave me happy chirp-chirp
use your intuition missy, it's the truth!
there also wasn't any earth-shattering reason for Yi not to tell me it wasn't possible.
Nuthin' wrong in asking Lisa, no not at all.
I wanted to check with Yi on how appropriate it might be. I mostly had in mind whether the person would actually LIKE the thing.
"Send [person] some of [specific item]?"
Answer: 26.6 > 11
26.6 from Hilary's book:
"Is this heaven's highway?
Creating success."
I believe that it should answer in the most direct way and in a "language" that I understand.
Lisa I sometimes feel the same way you do, that Yi can give inane or overly complicated responses to questions that could be simply answered. I believe that it should answer in the most direct way and in a "language" that I understand.
The I Ching isn't designed around our socio-cultural issues which are largely predicated on instant gratification.
Nuthin' wrong in asking Lisa, no not at all. It was obviously an important issue to you and I'm sorry I was flippant about it. - Liss
I disagree, Topal. The I Ching is an expression of our common humanity. That's why it applies now just as it did three thousand years ago.
Of course it applies now and of course it is an expression of our common humanity.
But the latter does not necessarily equate with the conditioning inherent in our societies and culture at this time.
And by that I mean we are encouraged to seek easy answers with very little effort. There is no free lunch in other words.
Thanks, Topal, but probably we differ as to how it is an expression of common humanity.
Well, yes, but I suppose you know how I despise the ethics of political correctness, which, in my opinion, is destructive of human welfare, though it rules in the UK, and as long as Obama is in office, in the US.
It isn't that the answers are easy but that they appeal to a cheap and conventional sympathy that ignores long-term consequences. Feed a stray -- cat, dog, or human -- and you become responsible for it/them for the rest of their lives.
Lisa I sometimes feel the same way you do, that Yi can give inane or overly complicated responses to questions that could be simply answered. I believe that it should answer in the most direct way and in a "language" that I understand.
.Well, yes, but I suppose you know how I despise the ethics of political correctness, which, in my opinion, is destructive of human welfare, though it rules in the UK, and as long as Obama is in office, in the US
May I ask all of you ONE question? If you'd asked the I Ching the question I did - "Send [gift] to [person]?" and you got 26.6 > 11 as an answer, what would you have thought? What would you have done?
I did not ask repeated questions. I asked the one question. I got one answer. I went about my errand with determination, because I thought the hex 11 made it a challenge to me: "this won't go entirely smoothly - are you willing to make an effort for the person?" I decided that yes, I was. THAT was the mindset I had - until it became obvious that the task was not just challenging, it was IMPOSSIBLE. THEN I got angry - not before.
As for the gas pump question...ever heard of the phrase 'horses for courses' ? That means use the appropriate most effective tool for a job. The gas pump question was solved by straight forward research.
Lisa PMd me about her question here and we have discussed it privately and I said I had no wish to get involved with this thread and I don't.
The forum lately seems awash with people complaining they aren't getting adequate service from the I Ching as if it were a goddamn Mc Donalds. They really should get a refund.. Oh hang on they never paid to use the forum anyway....So they use a free forum where they get free interpretations but they just get mad and complain. I agree it is absolutely outrageous. The I Ching must do better !
This forum isn't a platform for you to air your political views. You already had a whole thread on it.
Lord, I would like for you to get out of England for a bit. Have you even ever left your shire?You really are not half as well informed as you imagine yourself to be about the rest of the world.
Time and time again you make wild uneducated generalisations about entire nations. Only recently a polite German asked you not to.
This is an I Ching forum. If I want to read about your political views I would go to a political forum.
BTW have you become 'Sputnik 72'
My political views are not in a separate sack, as you might imagine, that I can discard when criticized by the likes of you. Actually, I have followed the Biblical injunction and have never voted, and never will. I despise ganging up on others, which is the essence of politics and will not participate in mob activities, no matter how it is rationalized. Well, I had a thread, but Hilary locked it as she considers me a bloody racist. Unlike your uninformed selves, I have spent my time in Africa and think your opinions on me are equal to the deposits I regularly encountered along the highways of Eritrea.
Lord, I would like for you to get out of England for a bit. Have you even ever left your shire?
Impolite German was attempting to enforce Political Correctness. I may have a better appreciation of the German than he. At least, I have read a little Heidegger.
PS.
I feel very uncomfortable with national categorizations. Especially when looking at history and the fruits of national thinking 100 years ago...
Yes, also Heinrich Heine makes jokes about the german professor who will explain you the world, but as I am born and grown up in Italy and studied and am living in Germany, having British (uncle and cousins in Alesbury) and Swiss parents - some of them living in Brasil - I prefer a fresh cosmopolitan attitude. Because the things are much too complicated for such simple folkloristic categorizations.
For example one of the main British philosophical schools is heavily inspired by an Austrian thinker (Wittgenstein); one of the main western, christian poems (Dante The Divine Comedy) is strongly inspired by Islamic traditions (Dante's teacher, Brunetto Latini, lived many years at the court of Alfonso X of Castile).
I prefer to categorize by Chinese horoscope
You know little about England or even Europe as is obvious from your comments about them, some of which are laughable. I mean you couldn't be more out of touch.
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