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is this what all the talk is about?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ljdart/3571625360/
... Perhaps an aspact of this hex. is about influencing by means of scents and smells. In evolution-theory the smell is the first sense... Marking territories can be done by scents. The use of perfumes is not only a way to attract the opposite sex, but also a mark of identity and therefore territory...
... we humans mark territory by the fumes of industries, cars and other pollution. ...
Dora:... In advancing you might find you have to retreat sometimes ...
I find there's nothing wrong with the sexual obsession, mating processes happen all the time around us, inside us too, trying to couple our yin and yang sides...
... But yang has to keep a firm foothold, keeps its feet strong to avoid the pitfalls of gentleness ...
... My birthday is coming and going these days too...
Dora:
I cann´t agree more with you. Not so sure about the strong feet, I´m thiking.
When does your birthday come? It´s not in your profile, how could people be aware?
All the best,
Charly
... I share my birthday with Rosada and seeing this thread bloom with all great ideas gave me a great present indeed!
thank you for your nice words Charly.
I don't hide my age, I turned full 32 yesterday 02/07.
Yes HAPPY BIRTHDAY to RODAKI too.
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4th of July - Being a day of independant celebrations. Lets keep the party rolling
Nine in the second place means:
Penetration under the bed.
Priests and magicians are used in great number.
Good fortune. No blame.
At times one has to deal with hidden enemies, intangible influences that
slink into dark corners and from this hiding affect people by suggestion. In
instances like this, it is necessary to trace these things back to the most secret
recesses, in order to determine the nature of the influences to be dealt with.
This is the task of the priests; removing the influences is the task of the
magicians. The very anonymity of such plotting requires an especially
vigorous and indefatigable effort, but this is well worth while. For when such
elusive influences are brought into the light and branded, they lose their
power over people.
Yes HAPPY BIRTHDAY to RODAKI too.
Frank - Is there a sense in 57.1 of following your nose. Sniffing out what is needed in the situation, follow your instincts (perhaps a degree here of looking inwards and introspection per ravenstar's contribution) and then standing up to be counted?
4th of July - Being a day of independant celebrations. Lets keep the party rolling
Nine in the second place means:
Penetration under the bed.
Priests and magicians are used in great number.
Good fortune. No blame.
At times one has to deal with hidden enemies, intangible influences that
slink into dark corners and from this hiding affect people by suggestion. In
instances like this, it is necessary to trace these things back to the most secret
recesses, in order to determine the nature of the influences to be dealt with.
This is the task of the priests; removing the influences is the task of the
magicians. The very anonymity of such plotting requires an especially
vigorous and indefatigable effort, but this is well worth while. For when such
elusive influences are brought into the light and branded, they lose their
power over people.
The key to UnderWorld spirituality is to consciously acknowledge where we are and what we are. When we do this, we discover how to break down the conditioned barriers of human limited awareness, blinkered, straight-jacketed, and cruelly mute. The methods for this cleansing are preserved in folkloric traditional magic...our task is not merely to research this and restate it, but to experience it, to do it, as contemporary people. In this sense we are not individuals seeking the monstrous ego- beast of “self development”, but we stand for humanity, acting for those who cannot yet act for themselves, seeing for those that cannot yet see, speaking to spiritual worlds for those that do not yet have a voice.
thank you for your nice words Charly.
I don't hide my age, I turned full 32 yesterday 02/07.
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Is 57.2 about going in, mystifying, or bringing out, demystifying?
the subtle undercurrents of everyday life I think depends on how much we still need the sense of 'mystery' or 'secret' in our lives.
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:bows:
rodaki
Nine in the second place means:
Penetration under the bed.
Priests and magicians are used in great number.
Good fortune. No blame.
...
Penetration under the bed.
Priests and magicians are used in great number.
Good fortune. No blame.
... to determine the nature of the influences to be dealt with... is the task of the priests; removing the influences is the task of the magicians...
... the representative of Sun beneath a couch, and employing diviners and exorcists in a way bordering on confusion. There will be good fortune and no error.
From: http://www.yellowbridge.com/onlinelit/yijing57.php
There seems to be a real element of self searching in this line. The "reds" under the bed have all been huding away there and the love and light is beginning to shine into the nooks and crannies, to uncover some of the darker gremlins that have been hiding there. This is not a time for 'hiding places' it is a time for seeking the truth, bringing parts of the self that have been forced into hiding to come forward and be recognised, to have their chance to sing their song. We can embrace all the tools available to us even the more esoteric ones of the shamans if they are needed.
The union that is being sought, the wholeness that we are all searching for in our own ways requires trust, respect and intimacy to bring it home. First we need to trust, respect and be intimate with ourselves (even or is it especially the reds under the bed) before we can gain union with others in this life.
The masks we wear lose their power once we can name them.
This seems an appropriate song to sing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VosFiY1SifA&feature=related
Mike
Maybe you trust too much in our divinative powers! Why didn´t you tell us before ?
Yours,
Charly
I'm wondering if 57 is the hexagram of obsessive compulsive disorder
>>>>lol Charly! Thank you for your wishes!!
(I'm not really a birthday kinda girl, more like the moody, brooding type who wants to spent birthdays talking to waves )
Trojan:
this makes very much sense, especially about 57.3 . . would be great to know if others have had that in similar cases . . also in what cases people had 57.2 -loved the vacuum cleaner!! . . a friend got that line in asking about doing therapy . . how about others?
I still haven't managed to read the blogpost on 57.2 that Pantherpanther linked . . is the idea that 'Tao is absent on earth' coming from 57.2 or is it a more general comment?
Mike . . that song is just amazing!
:bows:
rodaki
I like that !!!
Rodaki - Isn't it just.....It sends tingles up and down my spine.Mike . . that song is just amazing!
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... Thinking of gentle winds I think of empathy: drafts of emotions that might breeze by, like clouds that pass by in the sky . .
Is 57.2 about going in, mystifying, or bringing out, demystifying?
Magicians and scribes are obviously presences that deal with the supernatural or the paranormal but I think that the functions described here are often encountered in any activity that tries to uncover our innermost feelings . . art is like that, poetry, even research in the humanities.
The ideogram WU 巫 WIZARD shows women dancing around a pole wich symbolize the connection between heaven and earth, seeking the advice from those who know nature in additing to historians who understant the nature of man will bring good fortune.
Dr. Wu Jing-Nuan: Yi JIng (1)
... I really like the fan yao of 57.2, 53.2 . . a company of people feasting in the open, sharing the common feeling created in the moment, by all of them being there and then ...
I just wanted to say that darkness will lie wherever we look for it . .
Lubricious Pre-Christian Fertility Rites
The Maypole, the resin-smeared phallic tree of European spring fertility rites was often a skinned birch. ... Other ceremonial relics of tree-worship lingered well into the twentieth century, as Sir James Frazer notes in The Golden Bough, his monumental study of folk magic and religion. In mid-spring Russian peasants went into the woods to cut down a birch sapling, dress it in women’s clothes, parade it through a village, and then toss it into a stream as a charm to bring spring rain to the fields.
From: http://www.billcasselman.com/wording_room/birch.htm
This seems an appropriate song to sing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VosFiY1SifA&feature=related
Mike
Karcher names Hex 57 as Subtle Penetration.
He says " Subtle Penetration is the Lady of Fates, the one who lays out teh offerings and penetrates to hidden influences. She penetrates to teh core, elegant and powerful, moving like the wind and wood in the earth. She is a healer, a matchmaker, brings each to its fate. She is a bright strutting cock, strong scented. In the body Subtle Penetration operates through the liver, governing the free flow of energy and emotion. It stimulates everything that moves in the body, purifies the blood, links eyes and sexual organs, desire and anger, vision and motivation, giving the capacity to act decisively".
"....She is connected to the Central Palace where fates are consigned and respresents a profound penetration of the above into teh below which can lead to the awakening of wisdom. "
Powerful Stuff !!!!
Mike
The pole figure in Yi is, in my mind, irrevocably linked with the figure of hexagrams 59 and 60 -the measuring rod which turns mere sound into music and the unintelligible into articulated speech.
Different people, different urges, different takes of the very same thing . .
I'd rather not work at cross-purposes but keep my balance.
Yes the penetration goes deeper and deeper, we are exploring here what wood is. to be assertive but always stay in balance. It's fighting a fight with your own enemies inside youself. It's in the dark in your own history, in the darkness of your own desires and anger.
Dora,
I would say you refer to the third line, when the third changes it will be 59. With this line we go to the core of this history(the third line refers to our Kidney, the energy from our ancesters, the lower heavenly human line.)
In knowing how to be a assertive balanced person we can let everything happen, this is the only way to give our free will shape. To have at least a litlle control on our own lives. This we can only do when we understand the phase of wood. There all new things start, with the start of thunder and the deep penetration of wind, the oldest son together with his sister the oldest daughter.
Frank
Last year I went to a concert of Jon Anderson, he is one of my heroes from the past when I was begin 20. he gave a solo concert and during this concert there was also time time to ask questions about his music and the time he wrote his music, also people from the audience where invited to play with him. Afterwards he was signing CD's. Something I never did I went to him together with my friend from that time(we see each other by going to concerts from music out our past). And we both bought a CD gave him a hand and had a lttle conversation. We were begin 20 again. It was a beautifull very special concert. We came into contact with our own history through this music.
Frank
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