10 years, then babies?

[precision grace]

3.1.2 > 29

My question is simply about 3.2 and ten years waiting period. I haven't been able to find information on whether this really means ten years or if that long waiting period can be somehow referenced /scaled down. I did ask a question about future of something that I am constantly struggling with because it demands that I just keep faith for indefinite period and I am not used to operating on faith alone.

Also, these babies. What are they all about?

 

[chingching]

I think producinmg babies can be widely taken to mean fruits of one's labour. So the line applied to a project, say, could mean only after a long time will the project come to fruition. There was a thread in ex. div. on the 10 years, from memory it had something to do with how time was measured in 10 year cycles or something, so the 10 years is symbolic of a full cycle of time, or also a very long time. Best look that one up though.

 

[bradford]

It means that you are fishing in the wrong tree.

 

[elias]

and burning metaphors at both ends? ;->

 

[precision grace]

thank you. I think you are right (about fishing in the wrong tree. probably because I'm too tired from burning metaphors at both ends) but I'd still like to know how to figure out the time aspect, just for kicks.

chingching, can you remember anything else about that thread to help me with the sears?

 

[chingching]

I think I remebering two threads, this was one of them but the other i cant find.

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=3080&highlight=10+timeframe

10 years is simply a really really long time.

But here is an example that I had personally with this line, I cast 3.2 > 60 last year about a man who I had had a brief flirtation with ten years prior (at time of casting is was almost exactly 10 years) but at that time I was young and so did not have any interest in doing anything at the time but when I cast that reading was finally interested, but there was no real opportunity, I had just realised that I was finally interested and never had been before.

are you prepared to wait ten years...

 

[precision grace]

I think I remebering two threads, this was one of them but the other i cant find.

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=3080&highlight=10+timeframe

10 years is simply a really really long time.

But here is an example that I had personally with this line, I cast 3.2 > 60 last year about a man who I had had a brief flirtation with ten years prior (at time of casting is was almost exactly 10 years) but at that time I was young and so did not have any interest in doing anything at the time but when I cast that reading was finally interested, but there was no real opportunity, I had just realised that I was finally interested and never had been before.

are you prepared to wait ten years...

Thanks for the thread. So ten years is pretty much exactly what Yi means when it says ten years? I was going to say there is no way I can wait that long for anything, but it's not true. The real question is whether the wait would be worth it. Bradford seems to think not but I don't know whether that's because waiting that long for something would seem to indicate it won't be worth it/it's not happening or whether something else in the hexagram says that.

To be fair, asking Yi to predict the future isn't really sensible all things considered..

 

[chingching]

So ten years is pretty much exactly what Yi means when it says ten years?

I dont think its always literal.

I think after that long a time the thing is limited (60). many things change in the space of a long time. But I dont think the advice of the line is to drop what you are doing. Are you prepared to meet the limits with a sense of joy, playfulness, openess (60's lower trigram lake).

IMO any activitiy undertaken with perserverance offers something, at the very least it offer experience which is indispensible. To know when to quit is an art as is knowing when to push through the hard bits. Like relationships I've seen, some people have really flourished from divorcing and moving on, some flourish by sticking together through some really tough relationship stuff. Its really interesting how the same problem can be good for some bad for others. It just depends where you are at I guess.

but back to 3.2 maybe you are trying to force square pegs into round holes or maybe the advice is what Lise has written (btw I find Lise's translation really applicable to projects esp creative ones, she's like the artist's yijing translator.)

Don't just be a reaction on what comes up to you: running when all seems easy, and frustrated by the first obstacle. Things cannot be accomplished just like that, they need time and thought. So don't rush, but don't let anything stop you either.