61>25

[yxeli]

Hey All-

An ongoing relationship problem

I asked 'what is the main problem i need to resolve with x?

61 lines 2 and 4 to 25

any thought most appreciated


Yxx

 

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Just looks like your truth is different to her/his truth , stay unentangled as in no need to try and convince him/her of your truth and no need to feel you should take on theirs and as in line 4 you are free to run off in your own direction to follow your own path, run free like the brumbies

 

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ooh and line 2 indicates a wonderful connection but with line 4 and 25 in there the tie between you needs freedom.

 

[answeredquestions]

Hi Yx,

'What is the main problem i need to resolve with x? - 61.2.4 > 25
Some thoughts about each part of the reading...

61: Yi could be saying deep down you know the problem. Trust in yourself that you know the main problem already.
61.2: Is about sharing what is true from deep within, sharing that honestness with someone else and connecting.
61.4:Wihelm's commentary says about this line:

we must be humble and reverent when face to face with the source of
enlightenment

I sort of like Wilhelm's take because I am easily able to connect it with the hexagram's main theme. To recognize someone's enlightenment. Acknowledgement of someone's inner truth.
A lot of other translators go on to say that this is a separation of companions or an end to something. Maybe this is because these truth's are not recognized or they are being stunted by the relationship. So it is better to go at it alone.

25: Ewald's site translates this hexagram:

Without pretense.
A foundation for progress.
It is beneficial to persist.
In fact, not being pure is a severe mistake.
It is a disadvantage to have a goal to move to.

25 seems to be advicing to not steering away from a natural inner truth. Not to cover the truth (or spark inside is how I like to see it) to benefit a goal in mind. Sticking to a pure natural self.

What do you think about your reading? It would be nice to hear what you think.

 

[yxeli]

Thank you.

There is a major issue with communication with this relationship- I have a real problem relaxing enough around this person and communicating my inner truth. Having said that, this relationship was maintained by an 'inner truth' that we both had for eachother. i know he told his friends that there was a very deep connection between us even without many words and i felt the same. the whole relationship fired up very isolated feelings in me and how very emotionally unavailable i am to others. Specifically with this one person. I never wanted to communicate how i really felt before this and then i couldnt. I got hexagram 3 alot surrounding this situation.

Even last weekend having not seen x in awhile, he tried to talk to me and i ran away.

this has happened for over 3 years now.

Most of the communication was wordless in person but we talked via email a bit, and this is where most of the misunderstandings came from.

I now feel really badly about it all. I dont know why i cant act 25 around him. and its been ages since weve been together but he haunts my mind constantly. Im waking up with tears in my eyes every day for over a year. and yi is my only support.

i suppose the worst thing is how i know that the relationship never properly began because of my own insecurities. and how he probably has a very warped view of me because all he had to go on was some very emotionally distraught writing.


Thank you both for your interpretations.

 

[ginnie]

'what is the main problem i need to resolve with x?

61 lines 2 and 4 to 25

One commentator at least (Wu Wei) would say it means, "Don't sit and plan. Make your mind empty and what you need to know will come through."

Your configuration is somewhat similar to getting hex 52 unchanging but with added advice against strategizing.

 

[ginnie]

There are many ways of communicating. Facial expressions and gestures speak. Never feel that you have to put everything into words. Words are tricky and as you said, often lead to misunderstandings. The least said the better. I'm a writer and I'm trying all the time these days to say the least possible.

 

[yxeli]

it now seems irreperable and yes, there was far too much thinking and analysing on my part when we were together. the thing is i was so defensive even when he said things to me i liked i gave the opposite answer to what i wanted to say. thats the worst thing about this. knowing i coulnt just be myself.

I miss him so much. 61.2 really speaks out to me about him. i got it alot when i asked about us.

i just asked ( i know its a silly question) what does he want us to be to eachother? 61 2.5> 27,
then i asked what advice can you give me abut this now? static 16
and then i asked what will happen now with us? static 23

 

[answeredquestions]

It seems as though you really have a lot of good feelings about him and it is worth trying to repair.

The first reading (61.2.4>25) was a possible explaination of what you said, that you cannot find the right way to express your inner self with him.

The second reading, which is not silly, "what does he want us to be to eachother?" recieving 61.2.5>27) could be saying that he wants you to be open because he feels this soul connection just like you(line 2). He might have confidence that you will learn to show him. He values you (line 5). And he also desires and needs you (27).

I would like to hear someone else's take on 16.

Maybe 23 is talking about the mini layers that are placed over the truth when you are in contact with him. All the little layers that are not 25. Peel them away. Maybe he can help you peel them away.

 

[ginnie]

then i asked what advice can you give me abut this now? static 16
and then i asked what will happen now with us? static 23

16 unchanging points to the fact that right now what he wants is a fantasy. Like a castle in the air, it has no legs under it to make it real.

The static 23 seems to indicate that there will be a peeling away or a falling down. These things go in cycles and the advice is to do as little as possible, since you are not in a position to change things. With your resources, be generous with him.

 

[yxeli]

thank you -

yeah there is a real air of an artwork about it- it was all distant gazes and hex 5 and 22.

definitely went into the realm of fantasy because it became impossible to relax around him.

He has said that he does want that fantasy thing- but i told him thats impossible to maintain (i nearly lost my mind) and he agreed, but still strives for it.

The static 23 seems to indicate that there will be a peeling away or a falling down. These things go in cycles and the advice is to do as little as possible, since you are not in a position to change things. With your resources, be generous with him.

Yes i agree with you- all these myths and words and entanglements need to be stripped away, and yes, i'm maintaining a distance from him now. I'm interested to know about your comment about generosity but also to do as little as possible?

Thank you answered q's and ginnie for your help

Yxx