A dream within a dream 48.1-5

[Mylife]

Hi everyone

I had a very strange dream. I had a dream within a dream.

In my dream, I dreamed that I was in my childhood house and there I was sleeping in my usuals room (with me was my mum and my cousin girl). While I was sleeping in my room I dreamed (my second dream) several I Chings and there was a voice (woman voice) giving me an explanation what those guas refers to (what part of my life are these referring to). Then I woke up (from my second dream) still being in my childhood room and I was telling my mum and my cousin about the voice I had in that dream and how strange it was. They both didn’t understand and I remember writing down several gua nr.

I woke up (here in our reality) and the one I most remembered was gua 48.1 (the other faded away) and I went to see what does it mean. I saw 48.1 changes to 5.

But I think this is above my skills. Not sure what does it mean? I didn’t ask any question.
Is this perhaps an overview about myself and my life right now? An insight on my life and an advice what to do next?

What do you think? Any ideas?

It was amazing, for the first time when I had a dream within a dream. Awesome!

Thank you all for your support.

 

[Liselle]

That is indeed interesting. I don't think I've ever had a dream-in-a-dream.

Do you remember anything the woman said to you?

Without any question or context it's really hard for other people to guess. 48 is The Well, the source. As with other hexagrams it could refer to almost anything in life. Yi often uses 48 to refer to itself (it is The Source).

I wrote this part at the very end, but I think I'll move it up here:
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However - I think this is important - because of the unusual way this came to you, if you think you have an idea what it refers to, consider checking with Yi. Remember you didn't ask a question here, you don't have any context, this was a dream. Dreaming about a reading isn't necessarily the same as asking Yi a question and casting a reading. It could still be an important message, but I (personal opinion) don't think it'd be a good idea to make significant changes in your actual life (quit a job, move house, whatever) based only on a reading in a dream without checking. (Added later: I suppose unless you're absolutely, positively sure, but if you were you'd probably already know that, and from what you say, you don't.)

You could ask Yi something like, "What should I make of the 48.1 dream-reading?" Or if you think you have an idea what it might refer to, you could ask if you're on the right track or something.
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(The following is what the post originally started out with...)

Hilary's Oracle translation:
"The Well.
Moving the city, not moving the well.
Without loss, without gain,
They come and go, the well wells.
Almost reaching, but the rope does not yet draw water from the well,
Breaking one’s clay jug,
Pitfall."

A problem with well water (literal or figurative) is that you have to dig and build the well (not easy, especially in the olden days when this was written). Then you have to have a well-rope and bucket in good working order so that you can reach the water and bring it to the surface. It's no good unless it gets all the way to your mouth. An inch from your mouth isn't good enough.

All of these things can wear out and fail - they need attention and maintenance. Wells can be a lot of work. It's probably hard to crank a full heavy bucket all the way up. Nowadays we have motors for that.

48's oracle also points out that wells can't be moved - if you move, you have to dig a new one. But the well doesn't care about people's comings and goings ("They come and go, the well wells"). If the well is abandoned and falls into disrepair it may not be usable, but the water itself presumably is still there.

Hilary's 48.1:
"The well is muddy, no drinking.
Old well, no birds."

The line seems to be like that - a well that isn't any use to anyone anymore. There's no omen; it seems just to be a statement of fact. We're also not told why the well is like this. Was it abandoned when people moved? Did people stop maintaining it? Was it too hard to reach the water in this spot (maybe they found a better place to get water)?

48.1 changes to hexagram 5. Hilary has this to say in our ever-helpful WikiWing (an excellent Well, actually!) about that relationship:

48 zhi Hexagram 5, the Well's Waiting. Perhaps someone waited for this well to fix itself? Feasting and waiting for rain is not enough here. You have to create the conditions in which the water can flow.

You could ask yourself questions about this. Is there anything in your life you're having trouble reaching? Does Yi ever make suggestions that you have trouble acting on? Is there anything you're waiting for, that maybe you figure if you just wait long enough it'll happen?

Have you ever heard the saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink?" I wonder if that could go with this line. Imagine yourself as a thirsty horse who's led to water, but then thinks, "I don't want to do that, my nose would get wet! I don't want a wet nose! There must be a better way to drink! I'll just wait for that!" But of course there isn't, for a horse. He has to put up with a wet nose in order to live.

In other words, maybe "the well wells" all by itself, but people reaching the water and getting it out of the well isn't guaranteed or automatic. It takes a lot of work: well-building and well maintenance, making sure your connections exist and are actually connecting.

48.1 says something has gone awry with that, or could if attention isn't paid to it. Keep thinking about it. Try to figure out what it might apply to in your life.

 

[The Thunderer]

Two things, one about the hex and one about the dream.

The hex: muddy ideas, unclear or outdated beliefs about something which makes us stagnate and feel exhausted in our relationships. (48.1 to 5)

The dream: cognitive dissonance about communication during waking hours. The magical (dream within a dream, revelation, symbolism) meets the skeptical or rational (mother, cousin, woman explaining the hexes). The dream could be exploring how to structure and integrate magic and science in yourself. One seems to contradict the other. In which one do you trust?

More context is appreciated.

 

[Hartloper]

Hi everyone

I had a very strange dream. I had a dream within a dream.

In my dream, I dreamed that I was in my childhood house and there I was sleeping in my usuals room (with me was my mum and my cousin girl). While I was sleeping in my room I dreamed (my second dream) several I Chings and there was a voice (woman voice) giving me an explanation what those guas refers to (what part of my life are these referring to). Then I woke up (from my second dream) still being in my childhood room and I was telling my mum and my cousin about the voice I had in that dream and how strange it was. They both didn’t understand and I remember writing down several gua nr.

I woke up (here in our reality) and the one I most remembered was gua 48.1 (the other faded away) and I went to see what does it mean. I saw 48.1 changes to 5.

But I think this is above my skills. Not sure what does it mean? I didn’t ask any question.
Is this perhaps an overview about myself and my life right now? An insight on my life and an advice what to do next?

What do you think? Any ideas?

It was amazing, for the first time when I had a dream within a dream. Awesome!

Thank you all for your support.

Wow @Mylife, this is a very intriguing dream!!

If it were my dream I'd say, the "muddy well" are your childhood memories. As children we don't have much of a choice where we "sink our wells". As adults we do, but often we do not act on this freedom of choice and unconsciously follow the patterns acquired in childhood. IMO this dream is a call to free your inner child and sink your well elsewhere (inner wisdom). Stop listening to the internalized mother and cousin. Maybe you have a good relationship with your family. If so, it might be even harder to accept there is a part of you that feels misunderstood.

I have had intense Dejà vu experiences in my dreams when I was a child. Of meeting a strange man across a bridge who helped me when I felt completely lost. Now that I'm doing a lot of inner child work, I'm getting a hunch, as a child I was dreaming of my future adult self coming to my rescue. Paradoxical.

Your dream seems to run in a similar vein.

I've had a couple I Ching dreams featuring gua numbers.

What I have also found helpful is a technique I call "Interview with a Dream". I ask questions about the dream and do I Ching casts for them. I don't believe dream interpretation is about finding a singular fixed meaning. A dream for me is a living organism. And this one sure is one that deserves to be treated as such.

Maybe you'll start "remembering" more gua numbers as you explore the dream more and more. This could be a great way of connecting to the Oracle. It's a different way of "knowing". Not just acquired and abstract, but embodied, through your inner child.

It is your inner child, which provides access to that well of wisdom. And the more you relate to her/him (not sure whether you're a man or a woman), the more you will be able to connect to the well of wisdom and draw the pure water of life from it (48.1 --> 48.5).

Were you your adult self or your childhood self in the dream?

Hope this resonates. It's always very individual, of course.

Best,

j.

 

[Mylife]

@Liselle
I recently had an argument with my husband due to some lies and hidden things from his side. These things shake me deep and I think I am in a process or healing and getting over it. Could it be that I need time to replenish 48 that and heal?

Do you remember anything the woman said to you?
No really. I have a vague idea/feeling that she was talking about my relationship with my husband.

 

[Mylife]

The hex: muddy ideas, unclear or outdated beliefs about something which makes us stagnate and feel exhausted in our relationships. (48.1 to 5)

@The Thunderer

Could be that is related to my current heart and feelings status? Like I explained in my post above?

With regards to magical and rational I would say I am not 100% one or the other. I am a combination of both (if that makes sense).

 

[Mylife]

What I have also found helpful is a technique I call "Interview with a Dream". I ask questions about the dream and do I Ching casts for them. I don't believe dream interpretation is about finding a singular fixed meaning. A dream for me is a living organism. And this one sure is one that deserves to be treated as such.

Wow this is interesting indeed.

Were you your adult self or your childhood self in the dream?

I was myself as now, the adult me today.

 

[IrfanK]

Not quite what you're talking about, but related: "false awakenings" are quite common in dreams, when people think they have woken up from a dream, but in fact are still dreaming. I had one like that the other day. I've been trying to record my dreams when I wake up in the middle of the night, when they are still fresh in my mind. I have a trouble with laziness and sleepiness, I can't be bothered, I just want to go back to sleep.

The other night, I woke up from a dream, and told myself to write it down, procrastinated for a moment or two, then found myself busily scribbling it down. Except I wasn't in my own bed, I was in some strange, old fashioned theatrical changing room, filled with pots of make up and wardrobes of costumes. Of course, I wasn't really writing down the dream at all. I was just dreaming that I was writing down my dream.

 

[Mylife]

A dream within a dream I find fascinating. Along with the I Ching I find it divine

 

[my_key]

This reminds me of the film Inception starring Leonardo DiCaprio. Cool story about meandering through different levels of our dreamworld and the connectivity of dreaming.

I woke up (here in our reality) and the one I most remembered was gua 48.1 (the other faded away) and I went to see what does it mean. I saw 48.1 changes to 5.

In the dream you are working hard to reach a deep understanding about something and hex 48 encourages you to keep persevering and working hard to discover ways that you can make the difference that you want to see happen.

48.1 - indicates that the path you are walking is not taking you in the best direction. It is well within your power though to bring forward new ways of being into this reality.
5 - Things are not quite ripe yet, however when the time is right for you to move forward you will know. Another sign will become clear to you and that is the time for knowing the true meaning and what you have to do to realise the hidden potential.

 

[Hartloper]

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