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Well, maybe "Distinction" as tag for hex. 38 just fitted to my personal experience and not to the reality of the translation made by sinologists of the ancient ideogram Kui.
On the other hand: No question no answer.
Thanks for responses
Well, maybe "Distinction" as tag for hex. 38 just fitted to my personal experience and not to the reality of the translation made by sinologists of the ancient ideogram Kui.
On the other hand: No question no answer.
Thanks for responses
The reason I posted the link about Stereopsis was to suggest that even within our own heads we hold at least two different points of view. The right eye and the left eye see things differently. They don't agree. But it's precisely because of this that we can perceive depth so well. So too with differences of opinion. Each of us is unique. The model suggests that we can explore this for greater depth in our experience. This is not the same as an extreme relativism that suggests that all points of view are equally valid, but it does suggest that our disagreements and our uniquenesses may have something to teach us. From the Da Xiang: 君子以同而異 - the young noble associates, and yet is separate.
Maybe I should take a closer look on hex. 10, 13 and 60. And I can see that there is a great difference between opposition and distinction....
Had been a little afraid of ending up in hairsplitting.
All of those negative emotions and circumstances can, at times, be part of the 38 dynamic, but it may also be two fellows sitting at a bench, playing an entertaining game of chess.
Brad, I was pondering on your choice of the word "estrangement" as more appropriate for h38. Is that because you wanted to stress the disadvantages of luck of diversity? In some lines the word alone give the feeling of something is missing, is not complete ,there is not a reference point .. in a loose way.
The problem with even using the word opposition it that it evokes so many contradictory models of what's going on. There a the kind where two forces are confronting each other and a kind where they are far apart and having nothing to do with each other. There are complementary opposites like yin and yang that must coexist and others like like light and dark that can't coexist.
es·trange (-strnj)
tr.v. es·tranged, es·trang·ing, es·trang·es
1. To make hostile, unsympathetic, or indifferent; alienate.
2. To remove from an accustomed place or set of associations.
[Middle English estraungen, from Old French estrangier, from Latin extrnere, to treat as a stranger, disown, from extrneus, foreign; see strange.]
es·trangement n.
es·tranger n.
Synonyms: estrange, alienate, disaffect
These verbs refer to disruption of a bond of love, friendship, or loyalty. Estrange and alienate are often used with reference to two persons whose harmonious relationship has been replaced by hostility or indifference: Political disagreements led to quarrels that finally estranged the two friends. His persistent antagonism alienated his wife.
Disaffect usually implies discontent, ill will, and disloyalty within the membership of a group: Colonists were disaffected by the royal governor's actions.
the young noble associates, and yet is separate.
Sure, yes !! With study buddies, in order to check our arguments, we used to play the "devil's advocate" game. Not that difficult to put ourselves in that role as we are very diverse characters, yet it was fun. As a matter of fact , at the beginning, that diversity was daunting and we all -as we reveled later-were worried whether it was going to work. Even now, after a long time, when someone asks me to describe that group, the first words I would say is " We are very different... "
Estrangement and the above confuse me. maybe its a language barrier yet the image is of someone departing or being alone . I understand what yo say about evolution etc, yet I don't fully understand your response on my question.
But you were in the same group playing the same game, hence I think the kind of diversity you refer to here might easily be the diversity of 13 rather than 38. I mean to play the same game you are both accepting/understanding the framework of that game, I'd like to say you are both operating within the same paradigm but not sure that's the right word....what I mean to say is you both agree that what you are doing is playing a game. I'm seeing a hex 38 cartoon scenario as one person thinking a situation is a game where the other will be thinking along completely different lines 'what game is this a game, I thought this was.....?' There must be existing cartoons of this kind of scenario....it can be the basis of great comedy
It's a whole different landscape. The estrangement comes from more than difference of opinion...it's a whole different view of the landscape where different things are noticed as important etc etc.
I wasn't really speaking to your question here, only to the general 38 idea of distinct points of view, represented by eyes looking in different directions. BTW, the word I translated "associates" is tong2 同, the word often translated Fellowship in Gua 13.
i see. Still that word perplex me as I can't see any ground for potential association. I assumed that must be a special meaning in that word and the ways you use it there in US that I couldn't find in dictionaries, hence my question. Its a h38 situation where the obstruction and potential opposition is that you are a native speaker while I'm a learner i.e my view could be limited.
38 is more about Divergence, moving farther away from consensus.
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