Expressions of love and hex 15

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Leonard--

Funny---- I have a Kliban's cup from 25 some years ago -- Cat on a stool with a guitar singin' "love to eat them mousies, mousies what I love to eat... bite they little heads off, nibble on their tiny feet"!!! Ha : )

I think it was the satirical that drew me in...but don't get me wrong I love the life (force) in all anima.... animals, oops...

And another think thing.... I was in Tiburon around that time and it, the area, had a cataclysmic (why is this word most often found negative/detrimental???????) effect on my path... ALL FOR THE GOOD!!!! : )))))))))

Deb

 

[cal val]

Deb...

Well aren't you just a little sweetie pie for saying so. Thank you...*grin*

Val

 

[anita]

Deb,

I was speaking of real love of course. By winners and losers I meant - well an example here. I could call him and not wait for him to call me. I could tell him I love him even if he hasn't told me. This stage though is reached only after a while in a relationship, though. After each has tested the other and discovered absolute trust.

Anita

 

[anita]

Martin,Speaking of your 'reality-dream', Chuang Tzu (I think) said something very beautiful. When he told his followers that he dreamed he was a butterfly and when he got up he was Chuang Tzu, they said it was only a dream. To which Chuang answered: "How do I know that the butterfly is not dreaming that it is Chuang Tzu? Which is real - the dream or the waking?" He meant all is illusion. And yet to me, although aware that my real self possesses no body, I must deal with this illusion of reality -- my worldly life. But isn't it amazing how real a dream can seem to us that we are surprised to wake from it?

Best for Your Quest

Anita

 

[Cieloeterra]

Hello everybody, I know this is an old post on the hexagram 15 but I lately had a deep experience on it and I would like to share my understandings with you.
I had several casts with hex. 15 as the resulting hexagram, all the questions were of a romantic nature about somebody I love but that confuses me a lot because of his endless presence in my daily life(even if mainly only by chat) and an apparent refusal of recognition of my feelings and may be his own ones towads me.
The questions have been questions such like "what kind of feeling he has for me?" "what can I expect from our relationship in the near future?" "what can I do to promote his romantic feelings towards me?"; the answers given to me have been(not ordered based on the above questions): hexagram 15 unchanging; hexagram 22.1.6 >15; hexagram 62.4 >15; etc. Other responses, seemed to me to approch the matter using different words and figurative references but my feeling on them is that they are all saying the same thing even adding more sense and perspective on the matter. Here we go eith few of them: hexagram 41.2.4.5 >25; hexagram 28.1 >43 ... which on my opinion are only expressing in a more dinamic way what is going on while the previous series of the hexagams were instead pointing to the whole situation and not putting much attention on answering my questions. What I mean is simply said: everytime I cast 15 on this matter the iching is telling me that I must stay quiet and think about my own duties and psychological state, rely on my own resorces and give time to the situation to develop as it is meant to and whatever would be the final outcome; it is saying stay calm, don't have expectation as this is both the better way for you to live at this time as what the situation/person needs at the present moment.
My understanding on the hexagram 15 is now quite clear than at the first cast of the unchanging 15, and with its repetition on different questions make me sure that the iching always give you the best answer he can. Sometimes, doesn't matter the question if he recognise there is a wrongness on the general personal attitude and gives responses pointing to what he belives being of the most importance for you.
Another conclusion I could come about by experiencing the hex 15 so many times in a little space-time is finally that we sometimes hold on the questions we submitted to the iching and/or to find hidden messages on the character of the hex. or in the trigrams relationship or in the ruler etc. but mostly of the time this ends as a beautiful exercise of deepening our knowledge n the hex. but what counts most is the general meaning we got of the hexagram. And if you believe in the iching, you can not believe that also what most resonates of a reading is the answer he wanted to give you; the iching knows us, he knows our way of working, our understandings, our culture and our expression's patterns s that he will always give us the most effective message we need to get.
I would like to have your opinion on my experience, and also be forgiven for my english!
love