HELP! Finding lost items!! Hexagram 37-59

[kiching00]

I have lost two really important items, and for both readings I've received the same reading hexagran 37 1.2.3 to hexagram 59.

Does 59 mean that it's gone?

Hexagran 37 represents it could still be in my home right??

Please please help!! Thank you!!

 

[ginnie]

Whenever there are three lines moving, I tend to consult the middle line. Since this has to do with food preparation, I'll make a guess that the lost items are somewhere in the kitchen. By the way, what are the lost items?

 

[diamanda]

I'll agree with ginnie, kitchen. And 59 suggests the sink drain. Either near water, or the items got accidentally flushed down the sink. Or, another possibility, mopping bucket, or somewhere you recently flushed/cleaned. If the items were really small, they might have gone down the drain.

 

[kiching00]

Thanks guys for responding. It's my social security card and my friend's bra pads!! (She let me borrow it for a modeling photoshoot).

I think it's ironic how it's two of the most important items ever to lose! I don't want to jeopardize my friendship over some bra pads, and I'm sincerely hoping that it's in the kitchen somewhere! It makes sense!

I put a bunch of stuff on my kitchen counter and island. I'll check once more tonight. I think it's crazy how I got the same exact reading for both items too!

 

[Tim K]

I put a bunch of stuff on my kitchen counter and island. I'll check once more tonight.

I also think that the items are there.

37.1 → 53 (Gradual Development), Richmond:
The family is enclosed (regulated). Regret disappears.
In a box or something, in a drawer/bag/container.

53.2 → 57 (Subtle Influence), Legge:
Shows the geese gradually approaching the large rocks, where they eat and drink joyfully and at ease.
There will be good fortune.
Kitchen counter yes.

57.3 → 59 (Dispersing), Legge:
Shows its subject penetrating (only) by violent and repeated efforts.
There will be occasion for regret.
Either you will find them by looking multiple times, or there are multiple containers (or even inside one another).

----------------
37.2 → 9 (Small Increments), Legge:
Shows its subject taking nothing on herself, but in her central place attending to the preparation of the food.
Through her firm correctness there will be good fortune.
Idea of being contained inside something, or just in center of the kitchen.


Between an oven and a sink?
Lower trigram goes from fire to water, under wood (countertop).

I think you got the same answer simply because both items are in the same place

 

[Liselle]

37.2 says,

'No direction to pursue,
Stay in the centre and cook.
Constancy, good fortune.

I agree with "kitchen," and also wonder if this line might mean the items will turn up more or less on their own as you're going about your normal work? Don't actively "pursue," just behave in a normal, ordinary way ("centre") with "constancy"...?

Of course that's one line out of three.

37.1
'With barriers, there is a home.
Regrets vanish.'

That could be a hint for finding the things, but it might also be a tiny lecture from Yi about putting things where they belong in the first place? (This is something I am bad at, so I might be attuned to it. ) "Barriers" = the proper spot for things, clearly marked out and designated, like a barrier. I doubt there's a "proper place" for borrowed undergarments, but there might be for your Social Security card.

Am also wondering this because (I think) I've seen Yi sometimes use the first line in a reading to say something about the past, before moving on to the present or even the future.

37.3
'People in the home scold and scold,
Regrets, danger: good fortune.
Wife and child giggle and giggle.
In the end, shame.'

Was there any frivolity going on around the time you lost the things? A hint about "when" might jog your memory as to "where." It could also (again) be a small lecture from Yi about carelessness (sorry...it's a guess...I don't love lectures from Yi, either...).

59, Dispersing - I have an unfair advantage here because you've told us what the items are, and also that you have a "bunch of stuff" (a.k.a. piles of clutter?) in a couple different places in your kitchen. 59 can mean "flood," so the sink drain or some other water were great ideas, except it seems unlikely for these sorts of items. If it does turn out the items are in with the stuff you mentioned, it might be 59-ish still in the sense of dissolved boundaries, lack of rigid order, things "dispersed" in odd places.

Please let us know what happens!

 

[kiching00]

Update:

Hello everyone!!

Thank you for the feedback and your time!

Good news! I found both items!!

Well kind of. Turns out, I left my friends bra pads at her place. I guess I subconsciously left it there so that I wouldn't lose it. She found them in between one of the seat cushions in her couch. The other pad was found in the chair next to it as well. I told her about this reading and your interpretations (the kitchen, also it being possibly being between stuff) and she kept an eye for it. Even though it wasn't found in the kitchen, she did say that she eats in the living room/couch a lot so that might be why the "food" line kept coming up.

Also, my soc card was found in the back on my car, right below my seat! I couldn't believe it! I was so happy to have found it again!! I honestly don't know how it ended up there, but I do know that I will never lose it again!

I just moved into my apartment a month ago, so I finally have been able to unpack and clean everything up at least. So I guess that would be another positive to this

Once again, thank you all!

 

[Liselle]

Thank you so much for updating, Kiching.

Now that the items are found, do you have any thoughts about the reading? (Well, you mentioned a couple things, like eating in the living room - any other ideas?)

Other than 37.2 possibly meaning the things would turn up in the normal course of events (which is actually a really helpful thing for Yi to say, since it should stop you worrying), I can't see connections.

I don't even know about taking "stay in the centre and cook" literally - your friend may eat in the living room, but she wouldn't cook there.

Very puzzling...

 

[Liselle]

I could see 37.1 meaning "making a home" by getting settled after your move - finding places for things and so forth. But neither item was in your apartment at all.

It could be that most of the lines were addressing something other than finding the things. If Yi made its point about them with 37.2 (they'll turn up), it might have been using the other two lines to deliver other messages. Who knows what, though. It could still be little lectures, as I wondered about above...not sure...a month doesn't seem like an awfully long time not to be completely settled in, but what do you think?

 

[kiching00]

Lisa-
Yeah I'm not sure, this is indeed a puzzling reading. My friend isn't too big on anything spiritual or divination tools, and she kind of joked about this the iching was somewhat accurate, but not really right. I will say that my friend did say that she found the bra pads on her couch by accident, however in my case about the social security card, I looked in my car and found it. The intention was there, and I found it, so I'm not sure why yi would suggest to stop looking for it. Had I stopped searching profusely, I don't think I would have ever known or found out that my soc card was under the seat of my car. It is confusing. Also, 59 would have implied that its dispersing, that it's gone for good but since you guys had faith in it, I decided to keep on looking and eventually found it.

 

[Liselle]

Would you mind poking at this a little more? I think getting the same reading for both items is so striking. It seems almost impossible. It has to mean something.

Can you think of anything which might tie the items together? You posted about them together, but obviously they weren't found in the same spot. Did you notice them missing at the same time? Were you carrying them around together? I'm wondering if it might have helped with the reading to think about them together - the last time you remember having both - something like that.

Another reason I'm asking things is because many people don't carry their Social Security card around with them routinely, except for special circumstances when they know they'll need it. Were you on your way to or from doing something that required your card, when you stopped at your friend's house with the bra pads?

Speaking of carrying your Soc. Sec. card around routinely - do you do that? Maybe another possibility is that Yi brushed off the actual questions in favor of the chance to "scold" you (37.3) about it? As I'm sure you know, it's really dangerous from a security standpoint. If you think of "home" in 37.1 loosely, it could encompass everything that supports you. If your Soc. Sec. card fell into the wrong hands, it could put a lot at risk, so it's wise to "barricade"[SUP]*[/SUP] it safely. I imagine identity theft might feel very 59-ish.

Having said that, Yi probably has more direct ways of saying "danger! danger!" Not that I can think of them offhand, but there are scarier lines than the ones you got.

I'm particularly unsure what 37.2 might have meant, if Yi really was trying to warn you about the need to safeguard your card. Unless it was something like, "never mind this specific incident; there's a much more important 'central issue': watch what you're doing with your card"?



[SUP]*[/SUP] Edited to add - I try to be much more careful about crediting sources, but I messed up this time. "Barricade" came from LiSe's translation, which she provides free of charge on her website. It's an excellent resource, and very popular here at Clarity.

37.1
'To barricade one's home.
Regrets disappear.'

Same idea, but slightly different word ("barricade" rather than "barrier"), and it put me in mind of how people will sometimes go so far as to keep important papers locked up.

This may have nothing to do with you or your reading, though. It's a guess, is all, something which occurred to me.

 

[Tim K]

All of the items were found under/in-between seating cushions.
They were 'dispersed'[59] so to speak.

I think my interpretation with transitional lines was pretty good.
Enclosed [hidden, not in plain sight], in the middle or where you eat and drink, and penetration is needed to reach them (stick your fingers between cushions, check under seating).

Both hexagrams have wood on top, kinda like a cushion (chair).
Lower 3 lines point to something low, close to the floor/ground.

But I agree this is rather general, Yi could have shown reference to a cart for SSC.

 

[diamanda]

It is indeed a strange answer.
I just notice that we don't know the original question - was it 'where are they' or 'how to find them'?

In retrospect, some extra thoughts:

-- 37 to 59 = not in your own home anymore
-- 37.1 = in a home
-- 37.2 = "no purpose fulfill, in centre present food" - eating on couch, or, the 'food' (item) in between
-- 37.3 (no idea what to think about this one still - do you have children? does your friend have?)

The common theme to all lost items is seat, so where is the seat notion in the answer?
Perhaps a clearer question, for each of the items, would have been more helpful.