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franzy

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I asked iching,
"with respect, what can I expect he is my spiritual partner and lover in this life?"
Hex 36.5>63


I need to leave US soon on May because my visa is expired on June and I plan to study my next graduate school out of US too.

I met him in one performance collaboration in US. We have been together for 4 months.
I just came back from a trip with him as a date to his brother's wedding.

He asked me to marry him, so that I can stay. He wants to have family with me.
I feel so so happy with him and want to be with him for long long time. But I don't feel it is a good timing for me. I am still so young (25 years old), a lot of changing and possibilities, still want to finish my studies not in US, and work for the career preparation. I still experience and feel how does the energy match between us.

I am new, trying to practice my own explanation.
My own explanation is that


36 Ming I / Darkening of the light
Six in the fifth place means:

36.5
It reveals that this relating now is in a difficult time and light hidden(fire under the earth) situation. The life flow may be against this relating now. Iching gives me some suggestion to protect this relating and other parts of my life. What is it?


63 After completion, fire under water

This hexagram is the evolution of T'ai PEACE(heaven under earth)
It implied some danger and risks in this partnership.
Water may be over boiling or fire totally extinguishes.
After completion, the energy may be collapse/spiral down or standstill or spiral up.
Two very different energy together will be very beautiful if they are on balanced, but it required a lot of serious cautions.

So the expectation of him as my spiritual partner and lover in the life, it maybe come true. Eventually we will settle down, but the process has a lot of changing, difficulties.
Overall, this relating is a learning experience to gain strength, sacrifice, and help the other person.

But what does it mean on HEX63 judgment, "At the beginning good fortune.
At the end disorder."?



Please correct me and help me understanding how to use iching's words to consult the life issues. Thanks
Love, Franzy
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" what can I expect is he my spiritual partner and lover in this life?"

Hex 36.5>63

This line is not a fortunate line, it says that you can expect to be in a most unhealthy position in this relationship, like a slave deprived of your freedom, dominated by this person, trapped and unable to be yourself.
 

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I think the line is telling you to follow your own intuition.
Hide your light from dark influences wherever they come from (I don't think the Yi means your boyfriend) and try to get in touch with your own wisdom (light).
 
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Dear Franzy,

Because your question was specific about this man I do not think that he is your spiritual partner. In my view, the Yi is saying that you should keep your plans regarding your career and studies. If that involves leaving the US, so do what you consider the best option for you now. Do not argue, do not engage in conflict, just do what you really believe to be the best for your life and future, whatever this man might think.

Hope it helps.
Mirian
 

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Hi Franzy,

"But I don't feel it is a good timing for me. I am still so young (25 years old), a lot of changing and possibilities, still want to finish my studies not in US, and work for the career preparation."

I think that's your answer right there. There is not really a need to even ask the oracle. You need to make sure you complete your education, then establish your career. Anyone who would be a good life partner will want to make sure that you get to follow your own dream. It is not impossible to start a marriage and family, at the same time you complete an education and start a career. But it is a difficult challenge. Why take on the stress all at once?

36.5 says that there is a difficult, dark situation. You will not be allowed to let your light shine. You will have to hide who you really are. This would require perseverance until a better time comes.

63 says that there is a moment when everything is balanced. But the balance is very delicate. It requires caution and hard work to keep everything from falling apart.

To me, that is a very challenging path. For myself, I would not choose to start on that path myself. I would only take that option if there was a powerful reason that this is the only honorable choice. I would expect this path will be a difficult time, an intense time that would force me to examine my character under pressure.

I agree with all the other advice to focus on your personal growth, your education and your career. Don't add a long term commitment or start a family right now if you don't have to.

Personally, I don't believe there is one soulmate for each person. There are many people that could help us experience growth and joy with compatibility. Don't be too afraid about missing your chance with this one person.
 

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about " what can I expect is he my spiritual partner and lover in this life?"
Hex 36.5>63


Thanks for all your replies,
and also ben's words, "But it is a difficult challenge. Why take on the stress all at once?"
I feel it is what I need to question myself in this situation and this timing!

I just found out in my records that I also asked Iching the same question, before I went this trip.
I know it is not allowed to keep asking the same question in so short time.
m...
But the interesting is that


"with respect, what can I expect if c is my spiritual partner and lover in this life?" is: 36.3>24


that is also from hex.36,
Hex24 return, does it mean to return where I meet him before? or does it mean to focus on myself?


"with respect, what can I expect c is that person?" is: 41.3.6>11


Hex41.3 When three people journey together,
Their number increases by one.
When one man journeys alone,
He finds a companion.

what does it mean three people? and also " one man journeys alone, He finds a companion?"


Hex41.6
Nine at the top means:
If one is increased without depriving other,
There is no blame.
Perseverance brings good fortune.
It furthers one to undertake something.
One obtains servants
But no longer has a separate home.

There are people who dispense blessings to the whole world. Every increase
in power that comes to them benefits the whole of mankind and therefore
does not bring decrease to others. Through perseverance and zealous work a
man wins success and finds helpers as they are needed. But what he
accomplishes is not a limited private advantage; it is a public good and
available to everyone.


it is about the public, what does it mean in this context? does it mean I need to use my energy and talent to serve the public, rather narrow my focus on this person?


Hex 11 seems a good symbol.
Hex63 is evolving from Hex11.

May help me to read these two insights from iching.
and also how to study some connections and consults from three of these iching's answers.

Thanks so much!!!:bows:
 
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One thing I want to say is if the first question is based on your belief that something is so ie that there is a specific person who is your spiritual partner in this lifetime as you asked initially "what can i expect if c is my spiritual partner and lover in this life" then if that very assumption is misplaced then 41.6 would be a very appropriate answer.
It doesn't seem to me a line to favour exclusive ties and you seem to be asking about the existence of a very exclusive tie as in one particular person who is destined to be a soul mate so to speak.

Maybe you could reexamine that whole belief pattern. I don't think the Yi is necessarily playing ball with it, excuse my mixed metaphors :rofl: I mean if there is no such thing as one "spiritual partner and lover in this lifetime" then how would the Yi answer ?

Its my view the whole things alot more fluid than that, could be 1000 soulmates on this planet and you could all connect in different ways different times.

Hmm back to your specific questions my impresson of the readings is it wouldn't serve you to seek this kind of exclusive bond with c now. First you had 36 twice, then 41.3.6 seems to me either one of you possibly has attention elsewhere or simply external interests involving the world at large such as friends/work/studies that needs your attention and where fulfillment lies or calls to you from now. From what you have said 41.6 seems to represent your situation exactly - you want to go home and continue your studies and presumably enjoy all the connections involved with that - friends and living and exploring life. You asked what does it mean 'serving the public' in 41.6 - i think here it just means not confining yourself to very exclusive relationships - spreading yourself around, seeng friends, making new friends

The 36s you got look rather less fun than that and i would also question how much you feel this man really knows you for yourself - as in even when people profess undying love they can still not know the object of their affections at all - they just see them as a kind of represesntative of all they want. Also 4 months is no time at all in knowing someone -


Anyway to me your answers indicate you'd be better going your own way as you talked about in your first post. No reason you can't continue the relationship long distance and maybe connect up in holidays etc I might be just a little wary of his eagerness to bind you to him - esp with those 36s

(BTW 11 indicates a time of flowing - so taking the option of continuing your studies etc seems a course of action that flows well for you - where there are fewer obstacles to your progress. 63 can mean the best is already here, you've reached the peak. So in regard to your 4 month relationship could be its already peaking out anyway.)

But as always thats only my take on your answers, your own intuition about this is the best guide


PS as an afterthought, what with the 36s and 41.3 I might wonder if hes playing it straight with you ? Could be way off as of course I don't know the situation but still.............
 
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