Hex 50.5 to 44 - Love Relationship Question

[overkote]

If I can get some help with the following issue. After a very very wounderfull time in a new love relationship, where everything seemed right and advancing some past fears appeared and altered the relationship to a sudden break up. For me it´s been extremely painfull intenting in several times persuade my girlfriend to try again with an absolut NO as an answer.
Right after the break I asked about the relationship and next to come to the Oracle and I got
Hex 50.5 to 44.
The meaning of 50.4 is clear to me m but I can´t not really understand 44.
Thanks and lots of love !.
Overkote

 

[blue_angel]

What was your question exactly?

 

[overkote]

The question was: " The Events to come or how things develop after the break but still thinking in the
relationship".

 

[blue_angel]

(44)- I see as an overpowering woman or an attitude that is powerful and can not remain indefinite.

(50)- is the vessel. Most likely your relationship or perhaps your own spirit. What you choose to put into the vessel is what keeps it cooking and creates a nurturing, healthy meal. Metaphorically speaking.

Line 5- seems you are correct in your action or thoughts and must remain so. Stay in the middle. Accept that which creates harmony for you. Watch, see, and listen. Remaining open, yet sticking to what you know is correct in your heart. I see yellow as blessing as well as a happy balance.

Does this mean your relationship will mend, maybe, maybe not. Does this mean it will all turn out the way you hope. Maybe, maybe not, but it is good and right for you, in this moment of time.

Best wishes,

Blue_Angel

 

[overkote]

Dear Blue_Angel, thanks so much for the interpretation and advices.
Make huge sence and help for me.
Lot of Regards,
Cristian / Overkote

 

[ginnie]

Hex 44 literally means going to meet. And so, I think the 50.5 is in the context of going to meet one another. I think this is a good reading and implies that sweetness falls down as if from heaven, which is certainly a good thing. Sometimes this line has to do with creating something, like writing a book or similar creative expression. Could it have that meaning in your life? In any case, there is a sheltering, as something or someone stronger protects something or someone very delicate.

 

[overkote]

Dear Ginnie, thanks so much for your post.
Hopefully things turn that way, since after all my efforts I tend to loose hope.
When you refer to 50.5 to creating the meaning I see is the positive values, respect , happiness
and care we both constructed and shared when together and that my exgirfriend don´t want
to see now, we had our history even short but we had it. Now, when you refer to sheltering ,what do you mean with something / someone stronger ?, is spiritual you refer ?

 

[ginnie]

Well, it is said that the melon (something very soft and delicate) is wrapped in willow leaves and so there is the idea that something very yin is protected. But if this does not apply to your situation, then please disregard it.

 

[mirian]

Dear overkote,

Hex 50 is, as you know, the vessel. So, it is a container, a structure, a "cooking pot", and as such there is so much you can do with it. It can hold/prepare/transform things: relationships, a work project, spirituality, etc Your vessel -line 5- is in very good condition indeed. It is described as having "golden carrying rings" so it is as good as it can possibly be for the job in hand.

As for 44, your relating hexagram, lots have been said on this forum about it. Some aspects of it ? It is powerful, unpredictable, difficult to control and retain in the long run. Very often described as a woman who you can have an affair but don't expect to make her your wife (Please note that here it is used the traditional model of what a wife is expected to be: loving, caring, loyal, someone for a lifetime relationship) It is more an imagery to apply to people and/or situations.

Having said all that, my point is that your vessel seems to be in good order, so the question seems to be what it is being used for, what you are doing with it. Even though you asked about future developments I don't really see this as a prediction. I see your reading more as a call for reflection, about what you are really building/creating in your life and some circumstances around you (hex 44) that you need to understand and decide what to do about it.

Hope it is not too vague and can be of some help :bows:

 

[sooo]

Yellow in Buddhism, not to say the Yijing is a Buddhist document but they share certain symbols, is a color of renunciation and death; that is, no longer identifying with the body.That is why monks wear yellow robes. Its place in 50.5 is significant, as that which once carried them as handles of the Ding is being contemplated: contemplation of my life. Life is seen not as the sustaining force but an eminently transient experience, which is directly linked to the transient and passionate attachment to 44. This doesn't literally imply attachment to a woman, or grasping the woman as something or someone to forever hold to, any more than an infant can forever cleave to their mother, but it may very well apply to a dependent relationship of any sort.

 

[overkote]

Dear Ginnie, thanks for your last post. I would say at this point that my relationship came to an end, since I again tried to contact her last week and she after several calls just answerd to say me not to bother her again that she wrote to me she will not come back and hanged up. Now, even hurtfull all this for me I do realize that she didn´t do any single effort because she dind´t found love in me at the end of the day and thats ok, I have to accept it. Also it seems she began dating someone else as I knew. Now, and back to the issue, someone told me through Tarot reading that seems like a pregnancy is present, when you refer to the melon and sheltering could apply to it ? . Last night I tried to do a reading to this point, and so I was not sure how to ask so I ask , is she pregnant?,. so what i got was 28.3.5 to 40 , i have been reading something today but i will go further today. But the sure thing is she does not love me, there is no chances is recovering the relationship but arose this doubt into myself. Thanks again Ginnie, regards.

 

[overkote]

Dear Miriam:
Thanks so much for the post, it is very valuable.
Yes, the HEx 50 interpretation makes sence to me, indeed all this past 10 days for me have been full
of pain but also reflection also opening eyes to see details before I dind´t see. The affair is over there is
nothing to do now ( as I explained to ginnie now in my post answer ). I do belive Hex 44 also alert that values I looked in my partner as caring, loyal , etc,. were not going to be found in her and so the relationship never really could take off as I wanted. The line5 I supossed rescue something good from this, even from even or whoever. I don´t know, lesson to learn or something like that. I explained to ginnie a new concern I have of a possible pregnancy. if you see something in the related Hex 28.3.5 to 40 please let me know your opinion. Thanks again for the post and all good wishes.

Dear overkote,

Hex 50 is, as you know, the vessel. So, it is a container, a structure, a "cooking pot", and as such there is so much you can do with it. It can hold/prepare/transform things: relationships, a work project, spirituality, etc Your vessel -line 5- is in very good condition indeed. It is described as having "golden carrying rings" so it is as good as it can possibly be for the job in hand.

As for 44, your relating hexagram, lots have been said on this forum about it. Some aspects of it ? It is powerful, unpredictable, difficult to control and retain in the long run. Very often described as a woman who you can have an affair but don't expect to make her your wife (Please note that here it is used the traditional model of what a wife is expected to be: loving, caring, loyal, someone for a lifetime relationship) It is more an imagery to apply to people and/or situations.

Having said all that, my point is that your vessel seems to be in good order, so the question seems to be what it is being used for, what you are doing with it. Even though you asked about future developments I don't really see this as a prediction. I see your reading more as a call for reflection, about what you are really building/creating in your life and some circumstances around you (hex 44) that you need to understand and decide what to do about it.

Hope it is not too vague and can be of some help :bows:

 

[overkote]

Dear Sooo:
your interpretation for yellow is quite accurate as the events have been developing ( please have a look to the answer I gave to ginnie ), if I do interprate Hex50 and healing thoughs and pain and my own spirit I have finally loking to north to keep on with my life. Now and as for Hex 44 just is left to know why is so sentence to meat each other, maybe is for my suspicius.
Lots of regards.
Overote / Cristian.

Yellow in Buddhism, not to say the Yijing is a Buddhist document but they share certain symbols, is a color of renunciation and death; that is, no longer identifying with the body.That is why monks wear yellow robes. Its place in 50.5 is significant, as that which once carried them as handles of the Ding is being contemplated: contemplation of my life. Life is seen not as the sustaining force but an eminently transient experience, which is directly linked to the transient and passionate attachment to 44. This doesn't literally imply attachment to a woman, or grasping the woman as something or someone to forever hold to, any more than an infant can forever cleave to their mother, but it may very well apply to a dependent relationship of any sort.

 

[mirian]

Dear overkote,

I don't see 28.3.5 as showing pregnancy since, in my view, this is not a reading for anything really new that will grow and develop (which is the case of a baby). I might be wrong, but whether or not she is pregnant does not really matter. It is you and your life that are relevant. And if you use your vessel (50.5) wisely that is how you are going to get something good out of this. :bows:

 

[overkote]

Thanks so much for the post Miriam !, it´s been of great help and guidance.

 

[Apech7]

The Richter translation (which is the core text only) for 44 says "The woman is strong. Do not choose (marry) the woman."

50.5 is telling you that basically you are ok.

So I would suggest the message is take what you have enjoyed as a happy memory and move on.

 

[marcelomac]

Could you tell me your ages. How old are you both?

Thanks.

 

[overkote]

Dear Marcelomac,

We are both 43 years old

regards

Could you tell me your ages. How old are you both?

Thanks.

 

[sooo]

Dear Sooo:
your interpretation for yellow is quite accurate as the events have been developing ( please have a look to the answer I gave to ginnie ), if I do interprate Hex50 and healing thoughs and pain and my own spirit I have finally loking to north to keep on with my life. Now and as for Hex 44 just is left to know why is so sentence to meat each other, maybe is for my suspicius.
Lots of regards.
Overote / Cristian.

Hi overkote (I do like that name),

50 symbolizes refinement. From my own point of view, life is a course in resistance training. That is to say that it is through various adversities that we come to develop our being, 44 being a prominent figure and force,representing such things as longing, attachment, desires to love and be loved, to be accepted, and so forth. These become the tools by which we become developed and refined, or else we become defeated and destroyed by them. It's interesting that you say that you look to the north, as it's my understanding that the north is where there are both great adversities and great discoveries. Perhaps it is this that is represented by the yellow/gold handles.

As for your pregnancy concern readings, I don't see reason for concern, other than your distress over losing the object of your attachment, which all the more shows the value of those yellow/gold handles to carry your Ding, and further refine your being through this adversity. Easier said than done, always, unless you deliver yourself from it, let it go. It is the deer which has run from you, not you which has run from her.

 

[marcelomac]

Hi,

The answer 28,3,5>40 suggests me that she wants to be free and she is't interested in family or romantic commitment. She is inclined towards a beauty and a charming life stile.

You have had a good time with her and that's all.

Move on

 

[ginnie]

The reading about pregnancy indicates to me that you don't have to worry about her being pregnant.

I have to apologize to you. When I referred to the melon being wrapped in willow leaves, that is actually my mistake, as I was thinking (in error) of line 44.5, not line 50.5. Line 44.5 is what is called the fan yao of line 50.5, and I shouldn't have mentioned it.

As someone said, it is time to move on . . .

 

[overkote]

Thanks so Much Marcelomac..
you have been fair enough and I do agree with your opinion. I know it`s time to pass
to better things and thats I wan`t to put my efforts now.
Thanks again!

 

[overkote]

Dear Ginnie:
Thanks so much for take your time and answer. Indeed thanks all that contribute so much good advice and support with to my question. Its been of great help for me. Love disappointment will never be easy for anyone and so is not for me, but I do understand that the very first step is to convince myself in what is not good for my life and I feel affortunate for my 50.5 , healing will come. Many thanks again.

The reading about pregnancy indicates to me that you don't have to worry about her being pregnant.

I have to apologize to you. When I referred to the melon being wrapped in willow leaves, that is actually my mistake, as I was thinking (in error) of line 44.5, not line 50.5. Line 44.5 is what is called the fan yao of line 50.5, and I shouldn't have mentioned it.

As someone said, it is time to move on . . .