hexagram 42 unchanging. unchanging hexagram always means NO?

[diidii]

a few weeks ago I quarreled with a person, I asked iching: "why isn't this person looking for me?" hexagram 26.2.4.6> 55 which indicated that he was very busy. a week and a half has passed and today I asked: "will it come back to my life?" hex 42 unchanging. it seems to me a positive answer, but I read somewhere that when an unchanging hexagram comes out it always means no! opinions?

 

[moss elk]

Forget what you read about unchanging hex's always meaning 'No'.
It simply is not true.

But in this specific instance with 42.....
it might be a 'no'.

Some people believe that 42 is pure blessing,
but it isn't. 42 is about correcting (your) errors.
(of excess? of thoughts about the subject?)

Look at the Image:

The Jun Zi when seeing the good, as a rule, makes improvements
When having transgressed
(or made mistakes),
as a rule, makes corrections.

I don't know all the dynamics of what happened or the details of the relationship,
but I can tell you that I have received 42 unchanging in a situation where I made a mistake thinking that another person was worth my time, when they weren't.
(the moment I realised this error, I cast 42 and the perception was validated)
Or it could refer to something you did.

Reflect on this one for a while.

 

[diidii]

Forget what you read about unchanging hex's always meaning 'No'.
It simply is not true.

But in this specific instance with 42.....
it might be a 'no'.

Some people believe that 42 is pure blessimg,
but it isn't. 42 is about correcting (your) errors.
(of excess? of thoughts about the subject?)

Look at the Image:

The Jun Zi when seeing the good, as a rule, makes improvements
When having transgressed
(or made mistakes),
as a rule, makes corrections.

I don't know all the dynamics of what happened or the details of the relationship,
but I can yell you that I have received 42 unchanging in a situation where I made a mistake thinking that another person was worth my time, when they weren't.
(the moment I realised this error, I cast 42 and the perception was validated)
Or it could refer to something you did.

Reflect on this one for a while.

surely I made my mistakes like he did his. I had also asked if I should proceed with some action (write or call him) I have always come out of a hexagram that did not spur action and in addition I feel it should be him but at the same time I am waiting. I also asked a question asking if I was waiting unnecessarily for hex 25.1.2> 6. maybe I should just go ahead and understand that there is nothing more to do about it now. thank you very much for your patience

 

[diidii]

I was confident because I imagined that if it was a negative answer it gave me a hexagram 12. I too am part of the people who thought that 42 was all gold and happiness

 

[rosada]

He isn't looking for you because after the quarrel and separation (26.2) he doesn't want to get caught up in more drama (26.4), so he's choosing to go on alone(26.6).
42. Increase happens when we promote good and decrease bad. At this time it looks as if he will not make a move to come back as he thinks going on alone is a better.

 

[diidii]

He isn't looking for you because after the quarrel and separation (26.2) he doesn't want to get caught up in more drama (26.4), so he's choosing to go on alone(26.6).
42. Increase happens when we promote good and decrease bad. At this time it looks as if he will not make a move to come back as he thinks going on alone is a better.

hexagram 25 not 26 apparently seems not to have overcome anger perhaps? in any case I will continue on my path of correction alone thank's rosada

 

[Freedda]

You might want to look at this sticky thread from exploration divination - about 'positive' and 'negative' hexagrams. Your post about a hexagram with no moving lines meaning 'no' reminded me of it.

Positive and Negative Hexagrams

The title of this tread is a trap. I hear this phrase so many times on so many different threads that to set the question right each time would be like playing whack-a-mole. It seems to come up at least once a week. It's my thesis that as long as someone is locked into thinking of any Gua as...

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[diamanda]

I've been keeping an eye on this for years, i.e. on unchanging hexagrams, and if they turn out as yes or no, in yes/no questions. 42 turns out as a 'no', consistently.

 

[moss elk]

I've been keeping an eye on this for years, i.e. on unchanging hexagrams, and if they turn out as yes or no, in yes/no questions. 42 turns out as a 'no', consistently.

That's because 42 refers to mistakes made.
(a mistake in thinking? a mistake in perception about someone?)
and if a presumption is inaccurate,
there is no ground to stand on,
and yes that would surely feel like a 'no'.

I can offer over 30 examples of unchanging Gua that meant exactly what the Gua meant. (and didn't mean 'no')

(excepting my 42 un. which meant:
"Good morning! That's over, you made a mistake here, make corrections.")

 

[Freedda]

... hex 42 unchanging. it seems to me a positive answer, but I read somewhere that when an unchanging hexagram comes out it always means no! opinions?

To me this is the main point - should Diidi go with the actual response from the Yi - or their 'gut' or god forbid, even common sense- that this is a positive response, or should they go with something they read, somewhere, by someone, that unchanging hexagrams always mean 'no'?
It like saying 'I ate Mexican food the other night and I really liked it, but I read somewhere where someone said something about Mexican food being made by the Devil and that therefore I should not like it. Opinions - should I like it or not?'

Reading the oracle, 42 says: Worthwhile to have somewhere to go. Worthwhile to cross the great stream.

If this were my reading, I might think: is this someone I think is worth having in my life? And if so, am I willing to take steps - and even take some (great) risks - to have them back in my life? E.g. since I haven't heard from them maybe I should reach out ....

Or as the image text says, it's about making improvements when we see the good, AND it's about making corrections when things have gone amiss - or when we've transgressed, or quarreled, or are othewise out of balance with someone.

Or, that's one way to look at it.

 

[Olga Super Star]

I can give you over 30 examples of unchanging Gua that meant exactly what the Gua meant. (and didn't mean 'no')

Hello there

What do you exactly mean by Gua? Is Gua the intrinsic meaning of a hexagram?

 

[moss elk]

Hi Ol' Gal,

Gua means Hexagram,
less syllables= economy of speech.

 

[Freedda]

Gua means Hexagram,

And 'Bagua' is a term often used for trigrams.

a.k.a gua and bagua = using Chinese terms that often confuse people.

 

[moss elk]

That's right, specifically it must mean trigram, some authors have used it interchangably with hexagram.

I'll use the word hexagram or hex instead.

 

[Olga Super Star]

I like hex.
I always thought gua meant "changing into".
63 gua 3, 63 changing into 3

 

[moss elk]

I always thought gua meant "changing into".

That would be 'Zhi'

 

[Freedda]

That would be 'Zhi'

Yes! As in the 'zhi gua' - the 'changing to' (or resultant) hexagram; or a term of my own invention - the 'zhi bagua' or the 'changing to' trigram.

all the best ....

 

[Olga Super Star]

That's because 42 refers to mistakes made.
(a mistake in thinking? a mistake in perception about someone?)
and if a presumption is inaccurate,
there is no ground to stand on,
and yes that would surely feel like a 'no'.

Does that just apply to 42 UN or to its lines in general? Because it has great lines, especially the ones about the turtles.