Hexagram 43.1>28 What's my path?

[Bliss5702]

Hi. I want to first thank everyone that takes the time to help me with interpretation as I'm very new to this and your responses help tremendously. I asked the question. What is it that I am suppose to do that will help so many people? And I received Hexagram 43.1>28. I've worked really hard lately on inner healing, I've got my certification for life coaching, I've have opened up to psychic/intuitive abilities, I've learned astrology, tarot, numerology, and destiny cards. I've had broadcasting , media and acting training, I started a 501c3 for rehabilitation of prisoners, I've received training as a manager in the music industry and I started a small amount of work in the reality show business as well as received training on radio broadcasting and public speaking. Before all of this I worked in corporate America, accounting, banking, auditing, tax returns, etc. My ultimate dream is to become a talk show host. Any help with this interpretation will be great.

Thanks

 

[1eleven]

My ultimate dream is to become a talk show host.

So, why don't you decide to do that?

 

[Trojina]

I asked the question. What is it that I am suppose to do that will help so many people? And I received Hexagram 43.1>28

Let us look at your actual answer. Now this is a big ambition....helping all these people, and I say that because that is what 43.1 is saying really, that your ambition is too big for you. It's too much for you. It is good to want to help others but first one must take care of oneself.

from Hilary's book

'Vigour in the leading foot.
Going on without control means making mistakes'

In my experience this is a fairly sharp warning against attempting too much. Making bold statements of intent even to oneself that one cannot sustain. I can't be sure why Yi is asking you to scale down your ambitions here but I'm guessing it might be because you yourself may take on too much, become drained or not be able to carry the burdens you choose to take on.

The positive aspect may be that you simply look after your own interests a bit more. Look for pleasure for yourself and don't attempt to save everyone else.

OTOH the answer may ask you to make far more careful plans, quietly without big statements (even to yourself) of what you intend.



You have done many things and seem to have achieved a great deal already...but your answer really isn't advising you to go full steam ahead into this idea of helping many people. If you want to help people there are plenty around in everyday life you can help.


Perhaps it is more helpful to think of which of your own needs you need to attend to most before seeking to help all those other people ?

Why do you think Yi is suggesting your vigour/enthusiasm does not match your capacity here ?

 

[Trojina]

As an aside I am becoming slightly concerned re the 'life coach' industry. I get the impression that people pay a lot of money to be life coaches when it is they themselves need coaching rather than offering it to others.

Only recently here someone wrote of how unhappy she was, how everything was wrong, and then wondered if she should become a life coach I'm wondering if these courses are being heavily promoted.


BTW re reading the question I do get the impression you may need to slow down to get your bearings. You have done so many diverse things...maybe you need to gain more focus on what you actually want before setting out to achieve . No point setting out to achieve if you don't know what you want to achieve.

Maybe far more planning is needed on your part. A clear idea of where you want to be and then plan the route to get there. BTW you won't need a 'life coach' to do that.

 

[Bliss5702]

I really would like to be a talk show host, however whenever I consult the I Ching about it, I don't seem to get positive answers. For instance my question, what should I know about pursuing my dream as a talk show host? I received 31.4>39. This doesn't seem too positive to me. Although it's deeply rooted in my heart.

 

[Bliss5702]

Trojina

I have always been the type of person to put others before myself. I am now in a place in my evolution where I seek to think about self first because I realize that in order to help others I must first be able to help myself. I am probably the person you speak of as it pertains to life coaching, however I can't say that I'm not happy with my inner self. I'm very happy with who I have become inwardly, I am not however happy about the conditions I find myself in physically. As I started the path of inner work 8 years ago it seems as if my whole physical foundation crumbled and I've had a rough time getting things back in order. I seek to do something I deeply love with my life and help others in the process. I must be honest however and say that some of the things that I have done in the past have been for the purpose of making money. Ultimately I would like to be in a place where I am working and doing what I love, which is talking to people and helping them with inner healing, and as a result of me doing what I love, the money will come. With all of that being said, I just really want to be a talk show host. That's truly what I want deep down in my heart.

 

[Trojina]

I was trying to interpret the answer from the I Ching, 43.1, in terms of your question.

Yi suggests you are planning something, at least in terms of what you were thinking of when you asked the question, that you are not at all prepared for in some way. What way that might be is up to you to figure out. I don't know as I ain't you...

You asked Yi a question and the answer said

'Vigour in the leading foot.
Going on without control means making mistakes'

That's quite a clear answer you can use. It isn't a vague answer that is hard to interpret. Vigour in the leading foot implies stepping on into things you are not ready for. Hence the answer calls for a rethink, more planning, more care.

Now this

What is it that I am suppose to do that will help so many people?

was your question. So why would the I Ching give you 43.1 for this question ? How are you all mighty in intention and setting out and so on...and what is it Yi is suggesting you pull back from and control ?

I had a guess that this big idea of helping 'so many people' was beyond you right now for some reason. But you yourself have to apply the answer to see how it fits.

43.1 is your answer so you have to work with it.


BTW I imagine people become talk show hosts through a mixture of luck, being in the right place at the right time, charm and charisma....etc etc. I imagine folk who become talk show hosts are already working in the media as journalists or something ? There is no direct route to being a talk show host.

But I am curious as to how helping many people ties in with being a talk show host ? I mean primarily talk show hosts are there to entertain.

 

[Bliss5702]

Yes you're right. I am not prepared to do what I want to do to help many people and that's the prison rehabilitation part I spoke about earlier in the thread. However I do feel that I'm prepared with the charisma, personality, etc to step into the entertainment industry. So I'll direct my question more towards this part of my path. Thanks.

 

[1eleven]

As an aside I am becoming slightly concerned re the 'life coach' industry. I get the impression that people pay a lot of money to be life coaches when it is they themselves need coaching rather than offering it to others.

Only recently here someone wrote of how unhappy she was, how everything was wrong, and then wondered if she should become a life coach I'm wondering if these courses are being heavily promoted.

Have you ever experienced coaching?

Would you say the same about therapists, relationship counselors, etc?

We all have our own 'stuff' to deal with. After all, "Life is suffering."

Could a 4th grade student help a 1st grade student? Could a 1st grade student help a 4th grade student?

If you think you'll never be able to help someone unless you're 100% enlightened and free of suffering then, well, you won't be helping anyone in this lifetime.

Jon

 

[rosada]

I don't see anyone claiming to be 100% enlightened or saying that it is necessary to be an advanced sage in order to help others but if we are here on this site to polish our skills at interpreting the I Ching it makes sense that we share what we honestly believe the hexagrams are saying and I for one can not deny it reads to me that 43.1 - 28 is a warning not to take on too much.

That said, perhaps the 43.1 is a round about way of saying "Your life path is to take small steps," and that this approach could eventually lead to a realization of one's dream. In fact, perhaps encouraging Baby Steps could turn out to be a great theme for Bliss' whole Life Coaching approach.

The image for 28 reads, The superior man, when he stands alone is unconcerned. So while at this time Bliss may not have any support for his vision, perhaps with baby steps the path will materialize.

Maybe it would be helpful to ask a second question like, "What is the next reasonable step for me to take to reach my goal?"

Rosada

 

[Trojina]

Have you ever experienced coaching?

Would you say the same about therapists, relationship counselors, etc?

We all have our own 'stuff' to deal with. After all, "Life is suffering."

Could a 4th grade student help a 1st grade student? Could a 1st grade student help a 4th grade student?

If you think you'll never be able to help someone unless you're 100% enlightened and free of suffering then, well, you won't be helping anyone in this lifetime.

Jon

I just gave voice to my concerns about the 'life coach' industry. I don't think they can be lumped together with all manner of therapists and so on and besides this isn't really the place to discuss this I guess.

However I did see you once offer your services to someone who posted a reading here and I didn't much like the fact that you were advertising your services via this forum. You suggested someone contact you for help. I felt that was taking advantage of this place. I don't see this as a place for you to gather clients. Okay I only saw it once but I didn't like it. It's fine having your signature linked to your business but I'm not keen when you actually suggest to someone they contact you for help. It sounded like you were trying to get a client.

Your answer on this thread wasn't related to the reading from the I Ching was it ?


And no I think if someone isn't coping with their life at all how are they in a position to be a life coach ? I wouldn't want a life coach who can't cope with their own life let alone mine. That comment isn't actually aimed at you but at the life coach training industry who I assume make big money out of training people but those people stand little chance of actual work at the end of it. All I'm saying is I get the impression that these training courses are big business ? I don't know if they are but that's the impression I get.

I haven't said anywhere that anyone need be enlightened to help others. I have said that if one's own life is in a terrible pickle and one doesn't know what on earth to do, then doing training to become a life coach for others, for money, is probably not the best idea. Those who sell these courses are taking advantage of the lost...at least that it is how it can appear.

 

[1eleven]

First of all, I'm not a "life coach"... just so we are clear.

And to clarify what you "don't like" about me or my post... I didn't offer my services, I offered to help by sharing an audio recording that I thought may help (and have since heard it did). This is something I had purchased myself. Forgive me for sharing something that was beneficial to me and thought may be beneficial to others. I have not made 1 cent off of anyone in this forum and never tried to be anything but helpful.

You can all claim your posts are "i ching related" yet most are simply opinions or own insights from your 'preferences.'

You're right... this isn't the place for this discussion but it gets a little old to hear people bash things they have no experience with and/or little to no understanding.

Good luck to you and your 'preferences'

Oh, and someone that isn't coping with their life at all would be dead.

Jon

 

[1eleven]

Bliss5702, apologies for derailing this thread. I would just hate for someone's opinions to shape your future.

Do what you love (not to be loved) and have the courage to be yourself. The rest will fall into place.

All the best

Jon

 

[Trojina]

Trojina also apologises for any derailment.


However this is an I Ching forum Jon. This person did get 43.1 and that is what I commented on. You have not made any Yi based comment on the cast at all.

I resent that you call my offered interpretation of 43.1 mere opinion. All you have written so far is not I Ching related in any way.


Just saying 'do what you love' is a nice catch all phrase but doesn't have a connection to 43.1.


So lets get this thread back to the I Ching and the answer of 43.1.

 

[Trojina]

Also Jon you said

First of all, I'm not a "life coach"... just so we are clear.

But that's not what you said here



http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?19321-55-5-gt-49&p=199439#post199439

Also people asked for feedback/update on what happened and you didn't give any. Feedback is always much appreciated as we can learn so much more about the I Ching's answers that way so if you do feel like updating that thread it would be great.

 

[1eleven]

Also Jon you said




But that's not what you said here



http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?19321-55-5-gt-49&p=199439#post199439

Also people asked for feedback/update on what happened and you didn't give any. Feedback is always much appreciated as we can learn so much more about the I Ching's answers that way so if you do feel like updating that thread it would be great.

Please point me to where I said I was a "life coach"?

I haven't been active on this forum for a bit (I wonder why?) so I didn't see those questions. Thanks for pointing them out since they are fairly recent from a thread from October.

Jon

 

[Trojina]

Please point me to where I said I was a "life coach"?

You said in post one of that thread

I currently have one coaching space open that I'm looking to fill so I asked:

I presumed you didn't mean tennis coaching. Anyway it makes no difference to me what you call yourself or what you do for a living. Whatever it is it should be self evident from your website that you link to in your signature which says 'create your own path'.

I came here to answer the person who started the thread and I've done that to the best of my ability. So let us not derail this thread further.

If you have a comment or a view on the answer of 43.1 perhaps you would share it.

Let me quote it so we can return to the I Ching

I quoted Hilary last time, way back up the page so this time I will quote Wilhelm on 43.1 which was the answer to this person's question.

Nine at the beginning means:
Mighty in the forward-striding toes.
When one goes and is not equal to the task,
One makes a mistake.

That is what the I Ching said.

 

[Liselle]

LiSe Heyboer's translation of 43.1 uses a slightly different word:

"Initial 9 : Vigor in the advancing toes. Not mastering proceeding one causes misfortune."

I wonder if another way to look at this is that Bliss should narrow down his or her focus quite a bit, and pick something he/she feels best at doing, that he/she has the most "mastery" in?

It's the same as what everyone else has said - taking on too much - it's just LiSe uses a different word.

(Sorry, I don't know if Bliss is a man or a woman...)

 

[butterfly spider]

Not being prepared

Have just heard that a family member has gone off with a man 35 years older than her to an undisclosed location. I asked what should I do - as I am worried.
I got hex 43 to 28

Thank you for this post Rosada - I can actually do nothing - it is not my stuff, it is not my journey and I am simply not up to dealing with this anymore. I need to look after myself and let it all go.
Your post was very helpful
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