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Azul77

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Hello again on this forum and happy new year 2024 (I can still say it, can't I? 😅).

Today I decided to join WikiWing and I wanted to ask Yi : How is WikiWing going to help me?
He answered me 55.2-34.

Well, I think hexagram 34 is clearly what WikiWing means. To be connected to a great creative force, to follow an established order.

And 55.2 indicates that WikiWing helps me as long as I find myself in uncertain situations, full of doubts, I will have at my disposal the necessary help to clarify them and open the way ahead, thanks to the contributions of WikiWing members.

It's such a motivating answer. So right. I'm thinking it should be on WikiWing.

Does anyone else think so?

Thanks for your attention and your time.

🤜🏼🤛🏼
 

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Looking at my own 55.2 example in WikiWing :blush: , and what I know from experience using it... it can help a lot to see the different situations Yi selects 55.2 to express, and the different ways people express what 55.2 meant to them. Variations in how people say something can make a big difference sometimes.
 

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I think it is objective information that everyone interprets in their own situation and in their own life. I believe that in a way, it activates a mechanism that makes us see things or perspectives that were, shall we say, in the shadows. I believe that I really illuminates our path. But we have to trust what it says, something that sometimes goes against our desires... Of our know-it-all ego... 😅
 

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I just read my post again and it doesn't make sense. :rolleyes: What I meant was, you see different ways Yi uses a line or hexagram, different sides of it, different expressions. It's interesting to compare them.
 

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Ok, Liselle, I see what you want to explain. WikiWing is those different expressions.... Isn't It?
 

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Yes, I think so :) .
 
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Hi Azul77,
How is WikiWing going to help me?
He answered me 55.2-34.
H55 is Thunder over Fire
Trigram Fire is clarity, Thunder is inspiration and decisive action. The combination thus shows inspired and/or resolute action based on clarity.
In H55.2, things are not clear. This is reflected in the first part of the text of the 2nd line.
Abundance is screened so completely
That one can see the polestars at noon.
If one sets forth, he meets with enmity and distrust
...
In H34, action is taken (Thunder) from knowledge and leadership (Heaven)

The lower trigram Fire in H55 generates Heaven through the moving line at the 2nd position.
The moving line is the middle line of trigram Fire is the core or heart of the issue. Heaven is the overview, as well as the structure and laws.
Thus the combination Fire - Heaven here says it is about gaining an insight or overview into the heart of the structure and laws of Heaven.
To get the "best" result from consulting the Yi, it is necessary to know the basics, to know the "rules and laws" of the oracle.
The combination Fire - Heaven is about both the Yi itself and WikiWings.
Gaining insight into the laws of Heaven (or the universe) that "govern" our lives and how to respond "appropriately" to them is what de Yi is al about. At the same time, to get the "best" result from consulting the Yi, it is necessary to know the basics, to know the "rules and laws", the so-called 'ins and outs' of the oracle.

The nuclear hexagram of H55 is H28. In this hexagram is a tension that needs to be resolved, the tension here could be seen as doubt, uncertainty, not knowing something for sure.
This state of ambiguity is, on the one hand, the reason for consulting the oracle, but on the other, it is also often the state one is left in after the oracle has been consulted. A state that says: "What does this answer mean?".
The deliverance comes through H55 <> H34 WikiWings.

How will WikiWings help you? By acting as an instruction manual, so to speak.
The 2nd half of the text of H55.2 says:
...
But if one has sincerity that shoots forth like an arrow,
Good fortune comes.
Sincerely wanting to learn and understand the essence of something (... that shoots forth like an arrow) makes sure Good fortune comes.

This would be my interpretation. As always, take what resonates and leave the rest ;)
 
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Thank you for such a detailed and thorough reply. You have provided me with interesting and technical information that I was unaware of, so thank you for that.
All in all, the answer is very helpful in terms of the help I will get from WikiWing 🥰.
 

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Today I decided to join WikiWing and I wanted to ask Yi : How is WikiWing going to help me?
He answered me 55.2-34.
I don't think this is describing what wikiwing will give you, it is describing your doubts about joining, speaking directly into your motivations at the time of asking as it mostly does.

From the description of wikiwing you'll know it's a large resource contributed to by many people. Contributions include reflections, thoughts and experiences. There is also obviously Hilary's translation and commentary as well as information about all kinds of things Yi related, hexagrams of context and so on. It costs a tiny amount like a £1 a month I think if that is all someone can afford. It's also of course somewhere you can share what you have to give that will remain for others to see. It offers you a place in the writing of a great big book really and also contributes financially to the upkeep of the site. What's not to like ? There's no downside to trying it out, you can leave if you want to. Insights on the forum are good but they get lost, but in wiki it's all in one place. There are now many subsections for each hexagram, ie the relating hexagram, hexagram as a whole and so on. This book awaits the author Azul to make his mark :) to add his mind to the collective endeavour, to be part of it's making and to share in it's resource. You don't have to add things of course but I'm sure over time you will have things to say.

So my sense of your answer is that it is directed to what you are feeling. Always look for yourself and how you feel in an answer to make sense of it, which you have in your first post as well, and that would be the 'doubts and anxieties'

In 55 you have all the information you need to move forward. In line 2


'Feng is screened off.
With the sun at its highest, seeing the Dipper.
Going on gains doubts and anxieties.
With truth and confidence like shooting an arrow/ expressed [like Fa aka Wu],
Good fortune.'

You are worried about going ahead but needn't be. You can move forward in confidence. This seems a good omen also for your own entries.

That's my take on it. There's other ways of course but that's how I take it, that Yi is addressing your anxieties rather than describing how wiki will benefit you
 

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Hexagram 55.1 is about reaching the mountain top, meeting the guru, enlightenment!. But in 50.2 we find we are still in darkness. What to do when we’ve gotten an answer from the I Ching but the answer makes no sense or even if it does we still find no outer world answer - not even from the I Ching - can make our decisions for us? It says we still have to trust our own inner guidance - but the good news is that if we do then all will be well.

Hexagram 33 is about 33 Retreating from the group path and 35. is about moving forward on one’s own path. However, one does not leap from 33. Retreat to 35. Progress. First comes 34. stabilizing and gaining confidence for our new direction.

Thus in answer to the question How can WikiWing help? I see 55.2-34 as saying WikiWing is offering you a chance to clarify your understanding and give you confidence that your interpretation is valid and so can be trusted and acted on..
 
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I don't think this is describing what wikiwing will give you, it is describing your doubts about joining, speaking directly into your motivations at the time of asking as it mostly does.

From the description of wikiwing you'll know it's a large resource contributed to by many people. Contributions include reflections, thoughts and experiences. There is also obviously Hilary's translation and commentary as well as information about all kinds of things Yi related, hexagrams of context and so on. It costs a tiny amount like a £1 a month I think if that is all someone can afford. It's also of course somewhere you can share what you have to give that will remain for others to see. It offers you a place in the writing of a great big book really and also contributes financially to the upkeep of the site. What's not to like ? There's no downside to trying it out, you can leave if you want to. Insights on the forum are good but they get lost, but in wiki it's all in one place. There are now many subsections for each hexagram, ie the relating hexagram, hexagram as a whole and so on. This book awaits the author Azul to make his mark :) to add his mind to the collective endeavour, to be part of it's making and to share in it's resource. You don't have to add things of course but I'm sure over time you will have things to say.

So my sense of your answer is that it is directed to what you are feeling. Always look for yourself and how you feel in an answer to make sense of it, which you have in your first post as well, and that would be the 'doubts and anxieties'

In 55 you have all the information you need to move forward. In line 2


'Feng is screened off.
With the sun at its highest, seeing the Dipper.
Going on gains doubts and anxieties.
With truth and confidence like shooting an arrow/ expressed [like Fa aka Wu],
Good fortune.'

You are worried about going ahead but needn't be. You can move forward in confidence. This seems a good omen also for your own entries.

That's my take on it. There's other ways of course but that's how I take it, that Yi is addressing your anxieties rather than describing how wiki will benefit you
Hi Trojina,

By way of information and clarification, I will say that I first subscribed to WikiWing and then I asked the question to the oracle.
Reading you, perhaps, I asked this question because I had doubts about whether I was doing the right thing.
Even if I wasn't entirely clear, seeing the resulting hexagrams I felt I could rest easy with the decision.

I also wanted to tell you that it is very likely that I will also contribute things, results, perspectives of my "harvest" to WikiWing. I am in a very productive connection with the oracle lately.

Thanks for your input, always so helpful.
 

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Hexagram 55.1 is about reaching the mountain top, meeting the guru, enlightenment!. But in 50.2 we find we are still in darkness. What to do when we’ve gotten an answer from the I Ching but the answer makes no sense or even if it does we still find no outer world answer - not even from the I Ching - can make our decisions for us? It says we still have to trust our own inner guidance - but the good news is that if we do then all will be well.

Hexagram 33 is about 33 Retreating from the group path and 35. is about moving forward on one’s own path. However, one does not leap from 33. Retreat to 35. Progress. First comes 34. stabilizing and gaining confidence for our new direction.

Thus in answer to the question How can WikiWing help? I see 55.2-34 as saying WikiWing is offering you a chance to clarify your understanding and give you confidence that your interpretation is valid and so can be trusted and acted on..
Rosada,
an explanation that I liked very much for its simplicity and because thanks to the mention of the 33, I have seen that a reading that I have just made and shared in the 33 uc thread is totally a ratification of what I have deduced as a decision to take.

Thank you.
 

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