is there any truth in the Ancient Alien Theory 47.3.5> 32

[steve]

Hi There

I am very intrigued by the fact there could be visitors from another planet, so i have been curious to ask the question, what am I being told?

I really dont like the sound of 47.3

Richmond:
47.3: "here we are exhausted by battling against what is [truth], not accepting our circumstances, and so pain ourselves unnecessarily.

47.5: "we are in opposition to a greater truth, our truth is too small and when we cease our attachment to it joy, flow, will return"

It appears that I am missing the real truth, what is that I wonder?

Steve

 

[rosada]

Maybe it's saying Allen is in denial cause it pains him to admit he's that old.

 

[Tohpol]

47.3.5>32

Line 3: We are unable / unwilling to see the truth of the situation.

Line 5: Oppressed by forces who have ensured an information embargo in this area. Truth on this matter may be a long time coming... So, don't sweat it.

 

[Trojina]

Hi There

I am very intrigued by the fact there could be visitors from another planet, so i have been curious to ask the question, what am I being told?

I really dont like the sound of 47.3

Richmond:
47.3: "here we are exhausted by battling against what is [truth], not accepting our circumstances, and so pain ourselves unnecessarily.

47.5: "we are in opposition to a greater truth, our truth is too small and when we cease our attachment to it joy, flow, will return"

It appears that I am missing the real truth, what is that I wonder?

Steve

I don't know what the ancient alien theory is but as to visitors from space I see this answer as saying there's a certain amount of paranoia in over estimating their power. Well that was my first thought on the cast. I mean we tend to think if they exist they will be more clever than us but what if they weren't. They might be like koala bears, dim but cuddly. Okay well I suppose we think they must be smart to have figured how to fly from their galaxy to ours but you never know.

I can never take the lines of 47 terribly seriously and I see 32 as us humans going on as we have been doing whilst feeling somewhat intimidated or oppressed by smarter folks from outer space. I mean we always seem to imagine they come with ill intention or menace. Also 47.3 made me wonder if the search for aliens was often masking a different need, some kind of need for transcendence.

I have no evidence that visitors from space are akin to rather dim marsupials but it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[innertruth]

I have watched one cool tv report about alien theories etc. Very scientific though. And they mentioned that civilization levels increase in line with technology levels only. What they meant is that the more advanced aliens or whoever are technologically-the more peaceful, antiwarlike antiagression they are! There is a strict correlation. So Trojina, indeed, they could be very advanced with super ultra speed ships and sounds yet would not hurt a mouse...or anyone on purpose, to colonize or whatever..

Thats an interesting take.

 

[innertruth]

We are unable to see, look out of our thinking patterns I fully agree..it is beyond our understanding within our human biological experiences..but their marks in the history or hints or whatever do seem to appear in the world's most mysterious places...so we should not opt it out

 

[steve]

The ancient alien theory is a theory that we have been visited by aliens in the past, and we could in fact have been possibly crossbred with alien dna which may explain the huge jump in technology ie the missing link,
The reason i asked the question mainly is that there are so many unanswered questions and especially with ancient civilizations, as I simply do not believe the Egyptian pyramids were made simply by man given the tools available of the day, not to mention the way they are built, in line with cosmic alignments to practically a pin point, Machu Picchu in Peru another famous example engineers say they couldnt build those structures now,

I really like your views, and from the reading i do think there is a truth on this matter being withheld, on what level i dont know, and believe me i am skeptic most of the time as well, its actually more logical to me to think we got where we are today because of the this type of theory than some of the other religious views.
logically how could we just be this one planet floating around in space.
I dont think you need to be a scholar if people looked at this logically and MY gut feeling tells me there is something in this.
In Australia there is an ancient cave painting of a creature called the wangina and the aboriginals say its someone from the stars and the hopi indians in arizona have a similar name for people from the stars and even the pronunciation is similar and these are both very ancient cultures.

Now I am looking at this in the light of day 47.5 could be once the truth is out there could be a joy brought to all of us, as we may have the understanding of who and where we actually came from instead of what we have today.

Steve

 

[butterfly spider]

If a foreign alien entity - in any form - had visited the Planet in the past it could well
Be that they return from time to time - like we do when we go travelling. Earth is a tough hard planet - and it may well be that these beings feel somewhat sad at the scenes they see, or perhaps worried that they have intruded into our lives (rather like the Vixtorian missionaries. Perhaps they return and tell their colleagues what their predecessors had done. Maybe they plan another visit - to help us in the future?
I have no doubt that aliens exist and I have absolutely no doubt about the information black-out. I also believe that ancient civilisations picked up on visits. I always chuckle when I pass Stonehenge - the stones have, since I was a child, that the stones were put there by giants from outer space playing a game if giant Lego ....
I have a friend who sees little blue people with almond eyes on the tube. He is a Geologist and not one to elaborate. He says they feel friendly!!

I read once that we are not looking for aliens in the right places...

On the radio Takamitsu and Waterways came up - very ethereal music to go with this posting
X

 

[steve]

Wow you are lucky to live near Stonehenge, thats another mystery , but again seems to be cosmic in its alignment, why are we so isolated? There was an episode of ancient aliens that mentioned the Yi as well, cant remember what was said, i think it was some kind of mathematical influence, as maths they say is the language of the universe.

I think Topal's reading was fantastic here,

Steve

 

[svenrus]

The nuclear hexagram's tag: The family (according to K.&R. Huang) which I get to be that I Ching responds to - in this case - The humanity/human family amongst all the other kind of lifeforms.
Hex.47: Lake over Water or: The joyous over the dangerous or: The joyous Going/The dangerous Coming.
Whenever climax in man's evolution with all of it's Joy were reached, stagnation often had followed with all of it''s Danger and this Alien-theory could also be alternated by the possibility that our civilization had had a high level thousands of years ago which were totally destroyed by ourself except for a few monumental sites such as the cyclopic walls in Southamerica and other places. The tools that were used for the Cheopspyramid could have been highlevel-tools that we possessed then, but of which there ain't hardly any trace left.

 

[precision grace]

Maybe the truth is that the alians are interdimensional, rather than the travelling from far away. Or perhaps that they have been here all along. Maybe the truth is that we are dreaming this like in the film The Matrix.
Maybe all possible truths are true.

 

[Tohpol]

UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact v2.0

One of the best summaries of the phenomena, by far.

 

[butterfly spider]

Wow

You are a star Topal (well hopefully not a real one anyway)!!!

 

[svenrus]

http://futurism.com/images/kardashev-scale-the-kinds-of-alien-civilizations-in-our-universe/

- another point of wiev

 

[snakeboy]

Hi there,

only yesterday I joined this site, and clicking the forum today I felt immediately pulled to respond to this.

To me the answers you were told seem very straightforward; we deny ourselves a great truth, and therefore we are in pain.

If we allow ourselves to believe that we are not alone, that 'aliens' are out there and amongst us, we will be reconnected to a much bigger picture about our universe and the nature of our lives. We can find a great joy again.

Since you are intrigued, and asked the question: are you familiar with the Law of One Ra-material? It's channelled messages from an alien society by the name of Ra. It's free to read online, and contains many many answers on our history and the nature of the universe. Even if you are a sceptic, the answers are very thought provoking and you might like them greatly.

sincerely,
Ivo

 

[butterfly spider]

Welcome Ivo
You get all sorts of wonderful gems on here- try looking in Open Space too !!

X

 

[steve]

I think we do pick up energy from the universe but not sure where it comes from exactly,

Steve

 

[butterfly spider]

I remember talking about aliens with my Grandad. He said that he had never seen one but then he had never n been to Glasgow either. Perhaps they lived there?

When we used to go for a swim in an old quarry - I was about 8 - we looked into the deep water which was very cold. He told me that it was safest in one part - although I thought it all looked the same. He said that after the war old machinery was pushed off the cliff and landed in the water he said he dived down there and saw the wrecks of lorries etc. you would not hae known this without his knowledge. However my Grandad said that if you really really looked though you would see how the water in this part of the quarry was rippling - the water was affected by the material beneath. Most people wouldn't be looking carefully enough. He knew as he had seen it himself but if you were clever you could pick up on nuances in the current. He said that this was like seeing aliens. We need to know how to see. He said that good fishermen could feel the fish under the water - because they were receptive to the vibrations of the fish. Years later canoeing a really good coach told us to connect with our inner wisdom when paddling white water. Feel the riverbed he said - really look at the water and make it your friend. Don't fight it, confront it or be frightened. Be wary of its power but flow with its energy. (I wrote this in my coaching notes)

If we increase our awareness of ourselves and of what is surrounding us and start to connect and look then we are more readily receptive to alien energies

Apologies for anyone living in Glasgow. I went once and didn't see any aliens but then I wasn't looking for any at the time

 

[svenrus]

I have seen what could be unable to explain with normal logic: In 1988 I've heading home in the afternoon from schoolclass. Close to stormy weather it was - not hurricane - and I saw this guy standing with open mouth gazing up into the air when my bus was at a stop taking on passengers. I couldn't look up sitting in the bus, when the bus went on I walked down to the backwindow from where I could see up and there I saw what appeared to be an airplane: like made in plastic with no windows and camouflagepatterns underneath (!) hanging still. So I looked sharply, as the bus drived on, for a wire of a kind holding this plane up there, but no wire was to be seen and if it had been a kind of balloon hanging up there it wouldn't probably stand still like it did, it would then probably had swirled from side to side... I don't no why I didn't stepped out of the bus at next station and walked back to look closer ??? It just happened. I have never heard about such an appearance before and it still seem unexplainable to me.
Later when internet became common I googled for local papers in this area where I saw it, but fifteen years or more had passed and I didn't found anything, no one had rapported on it.
I do not expect that an explanation of this experience will appear - unless here, when posting this....

 

[Tim K]

Dolores Cannon books are full of experiences like this.
Also they contain a ton of answers about all the topics brought up here, answers given by 'aliens' - but we are aliens ourselves by the way (all souls have come here from another planets/planes), by evolved entities, living on a higher frequency, by our own aspect of the soul sometimes, through ordinary people undergoing deep deep regressive hypnosis, allowing them to go to a point in time between physical incarnations.
Free from physical body they are able to tap into their higher consciousness which has a wealth of wisdom and knowledge.


Still from Definitely Maybe (2008)

------------------------- Dolores Cannon - Legacy from the Stars -----------------------
D: Is there a purpose for meeting with these people and
interacting with them?
L: Yes, there is. The thoughts they have will interact with
ours. The developments then take place as we interact in
dimensions of thought. This opens up channels of
communication so we can assist their developments. That is
part of our task, to assist in development throughout the
galaxies we visit. Our job is to help and assist directly with
those thoughtforms that require our assistance and
development.

D: Have you ever interacted with the people of Earth?
L: (Seriously and purposely) Indeed we have! The
thoughtforms that emanate from Earth are directly related to
the work we do onboard our ship.

D: Have you reacted with Earth -- you personally -- in the
past?
L: Indeed we have. The time frames have varied, but the
communications we have has .... (She stopped abruptly and
showed signs that something was occurring.) (Softly) I am
moving now.

D: Where are you moving to?
L: To a different time frame. My body is tingling, particularly
on my left side. My left hand is tingling, all the way down
the left side. I'm peaceful. Relaxed.

D: Why is it tingling?
L: Because the time frame I am in now does not require the
energy frequency that I last spoke of. When the transition
is complete I will no longer be able to speak to you.

D: Do you know what happened to you when you were in that
lifetime on that spacecraft? What happened to that body at
the end of that lifetime?
L: It has not ended yet.

D: What do you mean? Is it going on at the same time that the
present one of Laura is going on?
L: That is correct.

D: Is it possible to do that, live two lives at once?
L: Without a doubt it is possible.

D: Without the one being aware of the other?
L: That is correct. I am aware that while I am Laura lying here
in this body, that I am also the other entity. That is my true
beingness.

D: Do you think that is the one that has been continuing
through time?
L: That is correct.

D: Is that part aware of Laura?
L: Indeed.

D: But Laura doesn't know about it. Is that correct?
L: On another level, yes, Laura is aware. Not the conscious
one. And yet that is not entirely true. I am aware that I am
Laura in this earthly form, but as the other being I traverse
time and space, and move in a different frequency. The time
capsule, that we spoke of, is a part of this energy frequency
system. Each person will become aware of their own
particular frequency in their bodies. As Laura I am
interacting more and more with this other frequency, the
alien one. When I meditate I integrate with this frequency,
and I learn and develop. I am understanding more and
more of who I really am. My job and where I really come
from. This has a purpose which will unfold gradually within
the subconscious, and more directly in Laura's conscious
mind. She will understand more of this as she grows older
in her physical form. She needs to know, which is why we
have shared with her today. She has asked many times to
know more about herself, who she is and her task in this
lifetime. It started so long ago. Now she will know that we
are part of each other, the alien being and herself. We can
never be separated, because we are one. -- Now I must cut
off this transmission because our craft is entering another
time dimension, a different energy frequency, and we can no
longer communicate.

When I played this tape back later for transcription all the
words after this remark were strangely garbled and impossible to
transcribe. This has occurred on other occasions when static was
so strong on the tape that it overshadowed the words. I have also
had tapes blank with no recording, and had the voices slowed
down to a deep guttural sound, or speeded up to produce the
"chipmunk" effect. In every case there was no malfunction with
the tape recorder. It is almost as though different energies are
often present during the sessions, and these can interfere with the
recording equipment.

It is interesting that these were three cases where the
subject was connected to and a functioning part of machinery
needed to operate a space craft. Another interesting aspect is the
repetition of the physical description and bodily functions (eating
and sexual reproduction). Can these be coincidence, similar
reports by accident? Or are the people in this book actually
describing a real, functioning society in other realms and
dimensions?

 

[steve]

Thats what i am saying Butterfly Spider I dont have actual proof myself or anything as strange as like svenrus saw although i have seen odd things in the sky like i saw something extremely high in the sky in the daytime that was moving extremely fast because as high as it was it should have appeared to be moving slower i thought, its a gut feeling that I have,
and logic in the fact that when you look into space just look at the size of it. If an ant had a brain or something smaller they might feel like the only people in their universe as we do. As technology is moving the sound of aliens is getting less ridiculous as the world becomes smaller, or less like they used to be thought of like the 1950's flying saucer type with a lazer zapper haha

Steve

 

[steve]

We could keep the thread going and ask some more question, i'd like an insight into " what is the true purpose of a pyramid" I have a heap of questions.

 

[peterg]

We are no match for them, except perhaps spiritually. If they were more spiritually advanced they probably wouldn't be coming here in little machines.

But something has stopped them from colonising the earth, each other, probably.

They're not interested in talking to us, directly.

They might be interested in nuclear processing, if the Tunguska explosion in 1908 is any indicator.

They can pass as human, which might help explain reports of close encounters which describe physical examinations and samples being taken.

I saw a star in the sky which seemed to be getting bigger. Then I realised it was a light, and I wondered what direction it was coming from. It did a perfect right angle turn without changing speed, as if using the city lights to navigate. It disappeared off in the direction of ... Sellafield I guess, from the latitude of the turn.

 

[Tim K]

Pyramid is a device to transmit and receive/concentrate energy (like a lens), built in a special places, aligned with Earth's energy grid.

 

[steve]

I have heard or read or seen that and there are things like the Baghdad battery, still i would like to see what the yi comes back with, but you would most likey know that pyramids are everywhere and because we have technology they are finding more and more, like in the ocean and places.

 

[svenrus]

From sciencenet this video around one-and-a-half-hour lenght will for sure enjoy You here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcKahraBiBY&feature=share&fb_ref=share

FullSceen HD playable...

It's beautiful presented and touch the topic discussed in this thread - I promise You

 

[svenrus]

.... just another thought on aliens: If to example the pyramid of Cheops/Kufu/The great Pyramid at Giza in Egypt was made as a sign to us from E.T. they would probably have placed a sign too at the opposit side of the Earth.
Cheops pyramid: 29N58'45.45" - 31E08'04.08" or just 30N - 30E would be opposit to 30S - 170W.

In GoogleEarth nothing is to be seen there. At least I've search without any signs to be seen.....


Sorry: 150° West

 

[steve]

There are sacred sites all in a line i forgot the angle around the earth but they all line up

 

[svenrus]

There are sacred sites all in a line i forgot the angle around the earth but they all line up

Yes, but couldn't those originate from a civilization of our own which had degenerated, been destroyed, long time ago ? Is aliens the only solution..... ?

 

[steve]

I just mean there are questions not answered and to me it seems strange they all line up,