Is there anything positive in 54?

[daisy]

I'd appreciate the thoughts of others on 54 and whether there is anything positive to be drawn from it.

this is my first visit and thread, and I'm delighted to be able to explore meanings and learn more - I'm not really in an environment where its easy to do that.

 

[kevin]

Welcome to the site Daisy.

Contrast 54 with 53

53 is the Gradual Advance which is made by the person in the time.

54 is change over which the person in the time has no control.

Mythically it is the story of a younger daughter being taken as a junior wife.

Sorry I can?t say more right now ? I need to be elsewhere.

--Kevin

 

[kevin]

Oh, you asked whether there was anything positive in the heading ? I would say yea at times.

Sometimes one is being led toward good things and it is inappropriate to seek control? this might be a situation, for example, where someone is sponsoring your advancement.

Also in the hexagram and lines is advice on how to manage times where one, perhaps initially, has no control ? with dignity and grace.

I do not think it is useful to think of hexagrams as positive or negative. Though there are some we would welcome more than others.

The hard ones bring lessons and quite easily lead one to benefits? like making a difficult journey to a better new home. The ostensibly positive ones can also teach uncomfortable lessons?

To tell the difference of good and bad is wisdom beyond my ken.

--Kevin

 

[kevin]

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[daisy]

thank you for this Kevin, I'll re-read and mull this over.

thanks for your time and for sharing your knowledge.

 

[gavagirl]

There's a lot about boundaries in this one, too. Like "don't presume to dictate to someone else what their obligations are toward you". There's a lot of compelled obligation in a traditional marriage; even in our culture, that's a stereotypical wife things to do, isn't it? She can presume to tell her husband what he's supposed to do just by virtue of her station? His own feelings toward her aren't the point. The point in marriage is duty. That would be especially true of traditional Chinese marriages, as they were arranged by third parties.

A concubine, on the other hand, would be taken for personal reasons. Those reasons might be base, or the man might really love her, so she could be there because he wants HER, not because he has some kind of duty to fulfill. She needs to stay in possesion of herself, make sure she's not just being used, and that she can trust the guy and what he says his feelings are, but if he really does love her, she's probably in a better place than the wife.

She also needs to avoid acting wifey, in the traditional sense, or whatever is genuine about the relationship could get muddled, even lost, in a bunch of "have tos".

 

[pakua]

I just received this hex regarding a group situation. I'm a new member in the group, and I take it to mean that I need to remain reserved and not make any forward actions, so that the more established members have no reason to resent me.

I think I also need to keep in mind the long-term purpose of the group, and avoid any short-term personality clashes.

Seems to be very similar to the concubine situation. I will have no direct power to influence things, but I will have a subtle influence. Should be interesting to watch.

 

[kevin]

Gavagirl and 'Old hand Pakua' ; - I hadn't seen it those way before.

So thanks from here too.

Love to see an update here Pakua

--K

 

[kevin]

Daisy

Hope you stick around - We are all learning from each other here... Folk who are less experienced contribute a lot... It is about life as well rather than just technical expertise.

--Kevin

 

[bruce]

Hi Daisy,

Agreeing with Kevin.

Good examples here by Gavagirl and 'Old Hand'.

It can also be something as simple as "not being yourself", as in an out-of-sorts mood.

When I first moved to Arizona, I stayed with friends as a sort of general grounds keeper/watchman. Being a very independent kind of guy, that situation for me was uncomfortable, especially for the first couple of months. But I accepted my place there even though it wasn't my own. As a result we've become close friends, though after one year I moved into my own house.

Before I moved onto their property I asked Yi what to expect from the experience, and drew 54. It couldn't have been more accurate.