Job Situation-Help Please

[samsh]

I am currently laid off and need to find a job soon. Today asked a question

" what are the chances of me getting a job in next 20 days" I got 6.1 changing to 10. I did some reading and got very confused so I did another reading and asked
"will i get a job by feb 10th 2009"

I got 3.2.4.6 changing to 10

it is interesting that both the times I got the changing hexagram as 10. Can someone please throw some light on the answers. Appreciate your insights.

 

[Trojina]

I am currently laid off and need to find a job soon. Today asked a question

" what are the chances of me getting a job in next 20 days" I got 6.1 changing to 10. I did some reading and got very confused so I did another reading and asked
"will i get a job by feb 10th 2009"

I got 3.2.4.6 changing to 10

it is interesting that both the times I got the changing hexagram as 10. Can someone please throw some light on the answers. Appreciate your insights.

Hexagram 10 may indicate taking the appropriate steps in any endeavour. My impression from your answers is you might be a bit conflicted and mixed up about getting a job...perhaps some delay in finding one is a good thing ? 6.1 actually suggests its good to drop a contention. How is you looking for a job a contention is what you must ask yourself. It could be the time pressure of 'next 20 days' is unrealistic, something you can't really continue in. Maybe this isn't something to rush into, nor expect just to happen, you have to take the appropriate steps with appropriate care (hex 10) I think the repeated hex 10 suggests you need to go step by step, don't cut corners and also consider carefuly what jobs entail and if you are suited.

Your 2nd reading, a similar question...only with more urgency since Feb 10th is not far away..3.2.4.6 > 10 suggests to me you just need to slow down and get your bearings or you will get confused and it will all come to nothing (3.6) Things aren't clear with hex 3, you need time to let things emerge.

Obviously you must need a job very quickly but I don't think this haste is either realistic or helpful. Slow down, go more steady.

 

[ginnie]

Treading

Hexagram 10 assumes that you are experiencing other people as difficult just now.

Hexagram 10 urges you to be as thoughtful and courteous to everybody as is humanly possible. It says that the way you conduct yourself is the key to how things will turn out. It is definitely urging you to practice old-fashioned good manners.

Hexagram 3 means total chaos. All those moving lines indicate total confusion.

Hexagram 6 seems to indicate, as Trojan noted too, that you are currently involved in some sort of dispute. Or does it mean that you cannot get a job now because there is too much competition in the job market? It could mean that there is a strong countermovement to whatever you want to do right now. The point is: begin to look for another job at another time, not now.

My translation of 6.1 says your affairs will end propitiously, provided you do not keep pressing the issues through to the end and that as little as possible is said about them.

It sounds like you are really hopping to get going, to look for a different job. Does it help to know that things can end better if you don't do that?

 

[Trojina]

I think the contention for 6.1 might be the self imposed time pressure ...you may have to drop that

 

[rosada]

I see getting 6.Conflict and 3.Difficulty at the Beginning as underlining the fact you are coming from a place of uncertainty, that is, you did not choose to leave your last job but were laid off, thus there is a bit of confusion as you look to get your bearings and find a new position. However, they both lead to 10. which I see as representing the company which will hire you.

6. Image:
"In all his transactions the superior man carefully considers the beginning."
By knowing what you are seeking you will not waste time pursuing leads that cannot go anywhere.

6.1
"If one does not perpetuate the affair,
There is a little gossip.
In the end good fortune comes."
Don't get hung up rehashing the fact you were laid off and are unemployed at the moment. There is no need to think this is going to be your long term fate.

10. Judgement:
"Treading on the tail of the tiger.
It does not bite the man. Success."
The tiger represents the prospective employer. Although its scary to approach him, drawing this hexagram says you have nothing to worry about.

It seems to me you are being advised that while the prospect of job hunting and interviews can be a bit intimidating, if you are clear about what you are looking for and do not hypnotize yourself with negative thinking, the possibility of getting up and running again soon is actually quite good.

rosada

 

[my_key]

I'm with Rosada on this one.
6 - you can choose to be whatever you want to be. Look for opportunities going forward.
6.1 - you can choose to be whatever you want to be. New beginnings look at the situation with an open mind. Go fly your kites live your dreams. You have a blank piece of paper in front of you.

10 - This will take you to some off the wall stuff.The risks you take aren't going to hurt you.

Good Luck

Mike

 

[Trojina]

I'm with Rosada on this one.
6 - you can choose to be whatever you want to be. Look for opportunities going forward.
6.1 - you can choose to be whatever you want to be. New beginnings look at the situation with an open mind. Go fly your kites live your dreams. You have a blank piece of paper in front of you.

10 - This will take you to some off the wall stuff.The risks you take aren't going to hurt you.

Good Luck

Mike

eh er how do you take hex 6 and 6.1 to mean that ?

 

[my_key]

eh er how do you take hex 6 and 6.1 to mean that ?

Hi Trojan = What do you think it is saying?

Mike

 

[Trojina]

Hi Trojan = What do you think it is saying?

Mike

I already said at the top of this thread if you scoll up. Its very difficult to take a hexagram called 'conflict' which is about some sort of dispute in which one must compromise, either with ones own conflicting wishes or another and take it to mean "You can choose whatever you want to be. Look for opportunities going forward". BTW I didn't think you were saying the same as Rosada, I did at least get where she was coming from...still perhaps you just wished to give an encouraging message, but you did seem to link that message closely with 6 and 6.1. Though the message may be uplifting I find it hard to see how you got it from 6 and 6.1 thats all. Thought you might be able to tell me how you arrived at the conclusion you did...but maybe it was intuitive ?

 

[my_key]

Hi Trojan - Sorry I missed the thread higher up.
Here is what thought I can remember putting into it, .and you may be right about a degree of intuitive input.

6 - Conflict - I saw here as inner conflict. Something about getting stuck half way is in the judgement. So begin with the end in mind and start as you mean to go on. If you get the start wrong then it'll more that likely go pear shape. So make your choices at the beginning to set the tone for how you go forward. Mind set is important.

6.1 - "If one does not perpetuate the affair, There is a little gossip." In my vernacular "Your head has got you by the balls.Don't let it squeeze too hard". An open mind, new dreams, blank pieces of paper etc will release the pressure (there is little gossip).

Its very difficult to take a hexagram called 'conflict' which is about some sort of dispute in which one must compromise,

I'm not sure I see this as a need for compromise more a sense of negotiation. The key point Wilhem makes is that giving up the conflict is what really matters. Letting go? While you are in these "times of strife" then hold back from going forward or you are going to come unstuck. But when you have negotiated yourself back to a place of harmony then go go go go go go.


It was interesting to do that again as I don't recall being that analytical in putting the response together. A bit of a shoot from the hip with artistic verbosity. So i hope that that has shown you how I joined the dots and made things less murky for you. But hey this is all through my filters - it could mean any number of other things to you.
Remember though, what's most important here is what Samsh is making of the responses. Let's hope the thread has helped in some way.

Take Care

Mike

 

[Trojina]

I see, thanks for explaining

 

[rosada]

Thinking about how 6. Conflict could be seen to mean, "You can be anything you want to be." It occurs to me that the image for six says, "In all his transactions the superior man carefully considers the beginning." Well, what is the beginning of the I Ching? 1. The Creative! "The Creative works sublime success." Sounds to me as though the I Ching actually says at the beginning, "You can be anything you want to be." So it would make sense that when there is a problem and one draws 6. the message is to look back at hex one and remember all things are possible. Oh, and there is one hint, "Furthering through perseverance." So while all things are possible it may be one needs to be patient, 5.Wait and if one is can no longer be patient and agitates to a state of doubting they can be who they choose then they've created 6. Conflict...and then, oops, back to square one to carefully reconsider the beginning and create again .

 

[ginnie]

Carefully consider the beginning

Once we are already involved in a conflicted situation, it is best to try to meet the other person half-way and not insist that our point of view is right and the other person's point of view is wrong. Nobody's point of view is all right or all wrong. What happened was that we allowed ourselves to get involved with a person whose point of view was so different from our own that the conflict that developed was inevitable.

If we had carefully considered at the beginning who we were getting involved with and been more discriminating, it is possible that we could have avoided the whole conflict.

We human beings cannot see into the future so well as the I Ching, however. We usually just find ourselves in miserably conflicted situations which seem to have caused themselves.