Limitations 60>19

[ontheroad]

I'm studying horticulture and I need to do a number of my assessments on a farming property. So far the farmer has been ok but not necessarily plugged in as much as I need him to be so it's frustrating at times as I can't get on with things and it's stop/start so I'm thinking maybe I should find somewhere else to do my assessments.

How would it serve me to find somewhere else to do my assessments
60.5>19

I have to be honest I'm not really understanding the reading. Maybe it's saying just try to work within the Limitations with the present farmer.

 

[Endless]

Hi,
I think your interpretation is correct. Try to approach him but also to understand his need to save efforts with you. Living in a farm is exigent, you don't want to waste time in anything which is not useful and productive. You should add this fact to your assessments.
E.

 

[Liselle]

60 in general is about agreements that work well for everyone. Sounds like the current one doesn't.

"Plugged in" is a good description of 19. It's what you need, and what the current farmer isn't.

Which leaves the question, can you find any place else that's any better? Just because the current one isn't ideal doesn't mean there are better alternatives.

Yi describes this as -

"Sweet measures, good fortune.
Going on brings honour."

That sounds encouraging. Someplace else will be "sweet" and "good fortune." "Going on" seems to say "yes, elsewhere."

 

[ontheroad]

Thanks Endless and Liselle both answers certainly make sense but I'm still uncertain about what to do. I feel a decision needs to be made from my point of view.

I've asked a follow up question because the previous one can be read in different ways (seems I get a lot of answers like this)

What is I stick with the present farmer
51.2>54
I do feel my studies are secondary to his priorities (fair enough) but if I just get through my frustrations and stop chasing him up it may just turn things back in my favour.

 

[Liselle]

The downside might be do you want to always give him 7 days to do anything.

 

[ontheroad]

The downside might be do you want to always give him 7 days to do anything.

Oh good point!! That's how it seems it is at the moment.
Eg. On Sunday we found a few plants that needed some TLC asap but he was flippant about it.
When I investigated it the next day I found the cause, which he had no idea about.
It needs to be done and the sooner I get started on it the sooner I can get the assessment done because it's an observation over 12 weeks as well.
He's just like yeah, yeah maybe next weekend.
Frustrating....

 

[breakmov]

...reasonable rules according to the situation:

work in the field is something very practical that requires proper monitoring and that depends on what is being planted and the weather conditions for an opportune adjustment.

-I suppose that in relation to the theoretical part you are following an agricultural almanac

-Have you considered proposing to help the farmer in his most laborious tasks, and from this interaction have a chance of acquiring that knowledge that only continuous practice allows?

breakmov

 

[ontheroad]

...reasonable rules according to the situation:

work in the field is something very practical that requires proper monitoring and that depends on what is being planted and the weather conditions for an opportune adjustment.

-I suppose that in relation to the theoretical part you are following an agricultural almanac

-Have you considered proposing to help the farmer in his most laborious tasks, and from this interaction have a chance of acquiring that knowledge that only continuous practice allows?

breakmov

Yes of course but therein lies the problem.....I can do a lot of the assessment on my own but then I need his knowledge and he's just not available for a continuum so I stop where I'm up to.
I'm finding it difficult to stop and start with so many details needed in each assessment. Something that could take 5 minutes takes 20 because I have to go back and adjust some information etc.
So hard to explain.
It's like reading a book and you're halfway through the story and then you pick up another book and get halfway through the story and then you pick up another book and get halfway through the story and then you have to go back and reset your mind where things are up to.
The assessments are not dissimilar and interactive so I might put details in the wrong assessment- it's just a minefield sometimes

 

[rosada]

60.5 seems to say you are off to a good start and 19. cautions not to expect results too soon, That sure seems to me to be saying stay where you are. But your question was specifically asking how changing would serve you. You weren't asking about how staying would serve you at all. But the I Ching does often respond to our questions in round about ways...
One more thought - just to add to your confusion - Mercury has just turned retrograde so astrologically it's said to be a time for reviewing or repeating the past rather than starting something brand new. So that could support staying where you are and going over the routines again with your current man. But of course it could also mean that if you go with a new farmer you would be repeating the past as you would be repeating your past studies, experiments...

I think Liselle's observation that there simply may not be a better position available right now is also worth considering.

M2C, I think you should look around and see if there even is someone else you could work with and if there is then consult the IC again.

 

[ontheroad]

Thanks Rosada. Yes I think it's worth putting feelers out to see, but you're probably right re Mercury Retrograde and past situations coming up. There has been a few past events repeating themselves although I'm dealing with things so differently this time around.
I have found a neighbour who can help me with one of the assessments so at least I can get that one done. It's not so agricultural so it works.....
Yes Liselle makes some valid points

 

[Liselle]

I think Liselle's observation that there simply may not be a better position available right now is also worth considering.

How I wrote that was confusing, sorry. Actually the bit about whether there's any place better was a rhetorical question, or maybe better put, the question I thought the reading answered. Ontheroad asked

How would it serve me to find somewhere else to do my assessments

and got an answer mentioning sweetness, good fortune, and honor.

I do think it encourages looking for somewhere else, though the scale of that, exactly how it works out in real life, who knows. Maybe an entirely different place, maybe the partial help Ontheroad's already found.

Another metaphor for 60 (from Hilary's Image commentary in her book) is digging channels to deal with 59's flood water, or irrigation channels out from a lake. They have to have the right "measure." Not enough capacity and you still have a flood. Too much capacity and the water won't reach to where it's needed. Now we're back to the idea of 60 as an agreement that tastes good to everyone - "sweet measures," not bitter ones.

I think Ontheroad can tell whether she has what she needs by how satisfied she is, how well it's working for her. If you're happy, Ontheroad, then you're done. If not, keep looking for more help.

 

[ontheroad]

Thanks for commenting further Liselle!
Funny you talk about floods and water channels.
We've had floods 2 - 3 times in this area over the last couple of years and he lives across the road from the river. It's also left waterways on his property that aren't normally there and he hasn't had to water plants or crops for a few years now.
I've pulled right back from seeking his assistance so he'll either step up or someone else will come along to help me out.

 

[kestrelw1ngs]

I don't have much in way of interpretation for your specific reading but want to note Yi just gave me 60.5>19 as well for a general collective question.

I asked "what [awareness or change] is breaking through right now"

Mercury retrograde in Libra with a lot of other planets in retrograde and a volatile Mars in Gemini. Astrolgors advising to use honey rather than vinegar and be tactical in negotiation.

Sweet agreements and honoring limitations!

It sounds like you have done just that.

 

[ontheroad]

So true kestrelwings re the honey/vinegar theory. Why I've decided to step back a bit!!
Trying to convince someone to get on with things when you're in a frustrated state.....! Yeah....nah ☺ ☺
Mercury is a wonderful and powerful thing if you're able to use it wisely for sure.