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I think the images speak plainly, in biological terms. An older man who marries a young woman can still produce children. An older woman who marries a young man can not - but that doesn't mean they can't enjoy their relationship.
Child bearing was a high purpose. Sex was for fun and release. Both can be overwhelming experiences, and both can keep life alive, but only one continues to live on.
... a pole extending accross a canyon, line one where the pole touches one side of the ravine, line six being the point where the pole reaches the opposite bank... a weak young girl... a swinging rope bridge.
旡 means: without, lackWe are *so* not on the same page with this one. I take wu2 bu4 li4 to mean 'without lack of benefit' - in other words, it's completely beneficial in each and every aspect. I think you should canvas group opinion here on this one.
... I think saying that the poplar imagery is separate from the marriage imagery is completely wrong,...
...is the poplar the man or the woman?
Populus lasiocarpa Chinese necklace poplar ...
Not a tree that you are going to pass without noticing.
It is exceptional amongst poplars in having male and female flowers on the same tree...
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However, 旡 不 利 is there in lines where there may be some doubt about the situation really being beneficial. (It is in 2.2 - 3.4 - 14.6 - 15.4 - 15.5 - 19.2 - 23.5 - 28.2 - 33.6 - 35.5 - 40.6 - 50.6 - 57.5.)I still like "Nothing isn't beneficial." Has the same meaning... it's completely beneficial in each and every aspect.
旡 means: without, lack
不 means: not, dis-, un-, -less
利 means: benefit, advantage, beneficial
...旡 does not mean nothing...
Indeed.Ewald:
If «旡不利» were so superlatively good in 28.2 why not to say 吉(ji) before?
I like 1.Some alternatives:
1) a moderate «not unprofitable», «no disadvantageous»
2) an advice «not fail to take profit», «don't let go the opportunity»
3) ...
I think the images speak plainly, in biological terms. An older man who marries a young woman can still produce children.
However, 旡 不 利 is there in lines where there may be some doubt about the situation really being beneficial. (It is in 2.2 - 3.4 - 14.6 - 15.4 - 15.5 - 19.2 - 23.5 - 28.2 - 33.6 - 35.5 - 40.6 - 50.6 - 57.5.)
Isn't it incongruous that such situations would be "completely beneficial in each and every aspect?"
It is preferrable for people to have some freedom for interpreting the I Ching.
Who's who shall have no answer.
Wilhelm has this to say...
"A withered poplar puts out flowers." How could this last long?
"An older woman takes a husband." It is never the less a disgrace.
-Wilhelm
Dear Luis:... if gender is needed in interpretation, perhaps it can be discerned by the line's position in the hexagram.
«...love’s best habit is in seeming trust, / And age in love loves not to have years told.»
Shakespeare
«...mi corazón espera, / también hacia la luz y hacia la vida / otro milagro de la primavera.»
Machado
Getojack:Not necessarily. There are other factors involved in childbearing than just age, aren't there? I don't think the lines have anything at all to do with whether the couple can produce children or not.
Not necessarily. There are other factors involved in childbearing than just age, aren't there? I don't think the lines have anything at all to do with whether the couple can produce children or not.
Ewald:... I have "Without disadvantage" in my translation, which ties in with my view that all the lines this phrase is in have some doubt about the situation being beneficial, or concern about things going wrong...
This is merely Wilhelm's interpretation that the withered poplar putting out flowers is the older woman. I can see just as easily that it's the husband giving flowers to the older woman, can't you?
Well thank you! Wow, what an unexpected and delightful treat! I shall think of this as an example of 28.4, advisors stepping in to shore up the old sagging ridgepole who is now 28.5 like grinning ear to ear!
Hi Charly, Thanks for your comments. I'm going to respond in a couple of days.Ewald:
I think like you. No so good, no so bad.
Well thank you! Wow, what an unexpected and delightful treat! I shall think of this as an example of 28.4, advisors stepping in to shore up the old sagging ridgepole who is now 28.5 like grinning ear to ear!
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