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philippa said:it strikes me that line 1 is about positioning oneself in whatever situation you find yourself in, before acting.
philippa said:Taking the "temporal" view, it strikes me that line 1 is about positioning oneself in whatever situation you find yourself in, before acting.
Yes no?
jesed said:Don't act..understand first
jesed said:That would be transitional time, in my comment
I know that in modern culture, action is high valuated.. but in Yi precaution is more valuated
True as a better alternative could be "non intervention"martin said:I write 'also' because, although 'wu wei' is often translated and interpreted as non-action or not-doing, it is in practice not the same.
It is 'not resisting and not forcing' or 'going with the inherent tao' of things, people, situations. Sometimes this implies activity, doing, sometimes it doesn't.
he already did say it actuallyBut when you meet Lao Tzu in heaven after your demise and complain that you were hit by a car although you followed his principles ... I think he will say that you have not really understood him. Yes?
90106 said:Why would you do that?
90106 said:Why would you do that?
stevev said:Don’t you think it kills the spontaneity or suppresses original thought ?
stevev said:Isn’t it better to encounter the text in response to some personal situation important enough to prompt you to go to the I Ching with a question ?
nicky_p said:Why not?
Can original thought be suppressed?
stevev said:Take a look around, how many people just accept what they're told, or read. I think your better off looking for what's wrong with the I Ching than accepting the words as literal truth.
stevev said:
I think it’s one thing to study it for the purpose of translation and memorise it as a consequence, but to study it in order to memorise it seems a bit like attending a madrassa to study the Koran as the word of god, or to attend bible studies where the outcome is mainly the conclusion of fanciful notions from obtuse words.
stevev said:I think your better off looking for what's wrong with the I Ching than accepting the words as literal truth.
nicky_p said:I was wondering why people do this - what it is they actually get out of this process.
bruce_g said:I enjoy your freewheeling and somewhat rebellious commentaries.
sparhawk said:You mean there IS something wrong with the Yi?? NOOOO!!! Utter heresy!!
stevev said:I just hate to think that the I Ching will turn into some sort of religion where the written word, or some hierarchy is seen as the authority. I know we’ve had this conversation before and I expressed the idea that the I Ching is just an aid to our own personal authority, as vague and as treacherous as that is.
stevev said:You mean you didn't get your indain name and orange robes from the bugwan / bugman / boogyman either ?
stevev said:Security and happiness, but not truth. Not that there is anything wrong with wanting security and happiness but without truth, are they just temporary ? Maybe that’s what the real buddhist wheel is about, unless you understand the truth, your going to have to revisit the arguments again. Maybe that’s what the I Ching is about, we’ll all be revisiting the arguments again and again and again, because really there isn’t any security and just what is happiness, I’ve never worked that out either.
stevev said:You mean you didn't get your indain name and orange robes from the bugwan / bugman / boogyman either ?
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