Meridians/Traditional Chinese Medicine

[answeredquestions]

I didn't know where to post this.

Is there a correlation between the hexagrams and the meridians in the body?

I have recently sparked my curiosity about the meridians again and since they have the elements integrated in them, I was wondering if anyone knows of a book, or a source, or just intuition about the juxtaposition of the two topics.

Thanks everyone.

Peace within!

 

[sergio]

Hi Answeredquestions,
in this thread you will find a few links I posted on this forum some time ago for a series of articles on that subject:
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/archive/index.php/t-9524.html
Sergio

 

[answeredquestions]

Awesome. Thank you Sergio. I think I might need to get a copy of the Nei jing. This has come up a lot lately and I think it is the oldest connection of the 2 subjects. I was just reading one of the links you posted about the man that wanted to train under an acupunturest that was using i ching or ba gua in his method. The man said that he would only teach family members but the guy sort of figured it out that he was using methods from something specific in the Neijing.

I just ordered like 200 dollars worth of books on the subject :/ I would really like to know all I can about it. Thanks for the link. I am going thru the posts now.


peace within

 

[charly]

I didn't know where to post this.

Is there a correlation between the hexagrams and the meridians in the body?
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Hi, AQ:

Do you read french?

Maybe it could be of interest for you:

www.meridiens.org/acuMoxi/cinqquatre/A&M 2006-4.pdf


In french there is also Vinogradoff, Le silence de l´aiguille.

Yours,

Charly

P.D.;

Maybe here:


http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter462/Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen - Paul Unschuld .pdf

... can get the study of Paul Unschuld.

Ch.

 

[answeredquestions]

I don't read French. I looked at it anyways hoping I could get little peices of it. I guess I got a little out of it thru the pictures but ultimately the language barrier is too limiting. Thanks tho! If you find something in English let me know!

 

[charly]

HQ:

Nerither spanish?

Try the link in the PD of my previous post.

Yours,

Charly

 

[answeredquestions]

Oh thank you Charly!

 

[sergio]

Hola AQ;
there is a very good version by Ilza Veith-highly recommended and I use to have Mao Yin 's translation which I did not enjoy that much. Try also some of Eva Wong's excellent translation on Daoist classics. Much of the information regarding the trigrams and its correlations to organs and meridians are to be found there.
What I remember from the Yellow Emperor's book on medicine is mostly related to the five processes and the doctrine of Yin and Yang not to the I Ching trigrams or hexagrams that is why I think Twicken's books are so interesting.
I remember also reading some papers talking about TCM and the IChing .All of them seem to equate the five processes to I Ching which I think is misinterpretation- they are not the same.
Sergio
P.s.:Gracias Charly!Muy bueno el ultimo enlace.

 

[charly]

AQ & Sergio:

Here is the Introduction to the Basic Questions:

http://d31zc2o7wdlbov.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/intro1.pdf

or here:

http://yijinjing.ro/sex-in-the-yell...ns-sex-longevity-and-medicine-in-early-china/

From: http://tao-library.com/store/


Ch.

 

[answeredquestions]

Thanks to both of you. I just received a book in the mail by Y.C. Kong. In the preface it talks about Ilza Veith's version being the first English translation of the Neijing.

I do not completely understand if there is a complete translation of the second part, the Lingshu(Spiritual Pivot). I haven't even figured out how much of the book I am holding has in it about the Lingshu but it definitely has all of the Suwen (Basic Questions). It's a thick overwheling book... but so was Wilhelm's I Ching and I love that!

....but so I have on order a book CALLED Ling Shu or The Spiritual Pivot by Wu Jing-Nuan. and a couple others too. I will let you know what I think of them but it might be a Hexagram 53 if you know what I mean!!!!

 

[frank_r]

I didn't know where to post this.

Is there a correlation between the hexagrams and the meridians in the body?

I have recently sparked my curiosity about the meridians again and since they have the elements integrated in them, I was wondering if anyone knows of a book, or a source, or just intuition about the juxtaposition of the two topics.

Thanks everyone.

Peace within!

Hello Answerandquestions,

I'm a acupuncturist and work also a lot with the Yi and acupuncture,
Wrote also something about the connection between acupuncture and the Yi;
http://www.frankroosen.com/dna.pdf.

There are several connections between the meridians and the Yi.
Another thread that had a lot of information is:
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=3030


For the rest here are three diagrams with connetions.
This diagram is the most known and used

The trigrams used with the extra meridians; Xu Feng assigned this trigrams and he also assigned the Master points to the extra meridians in 1439 AD.

Not so well known nucleur hexagrams and meridians

And some interesting books about the connections:
I Ching Acupuncture of Dr. Chao Chen, Yu Chen and David Twicken.
This is a little book and he was one the first modern writer that wrote about this connection.
Later David Twicken and Richard Tan wrote also books about the same point of view.
Also Ilan Migdali wrote an intersting book about this subject called a perfect season,
Peter Eckman wrote a peace called The Book of changes in Traditional medicine.


If you have some other specific question pleae let me know.

All the Best Frank

 

[answeredquestions]

These diagrams are exactly what I was thinking of seeing. Thanks! I will look over the other information too. Thank you Frank.

 

[rvencu]

Hi, you may check this chinese health rules that states meridian clearing and the use of the five elements to do that, by either production or conquesting cycles. Also explains how do we get sick in the first place. I am sure all these transformations can be related to I Ching.

http://yijinjing.ro/health-rules/

 

[charly]

Hi, Courtney:

I've found this page with many pdf documents about the Meridian System:

http://www.acucentre.com.au/theory.html

Here there are texts by Unschuld and translation of the Nan Jing by Hery C. Liu. Musts scroll down the page for seeing the text, don't worry.

http://www.acucentre.com.au/classnanj.html

Some Wu Jing Nuan and other texts, here:

http://www.acucentre.com.au/classlingshu.html

Even about the I Ching: a whole Wilem / Baynes, Confucius, Mencius, and the study of Donald Harper on the Mawangdui Medical Manuscripts (no the translation):

http://www.acucentre.com.au/classiching.html

Much more stuff by Blofeld, Fu Yu Lang, Eliade, Needham, Nathan Sivin, etc., etc., see yourself.


All the best,


Charly

 

[answeredquestions]

(A late) Thank you Charly for the above links