Regarding blood test

[Topher]

I will go with someone to do a blood test and I am wondering what would be the eesult of the exam... so I aske dit to show me an image on wednesday 36.1>15.1 and then the same question 33.4>54.3 then i asked the same on thursday and ti told me 8

this is not really an answer to my question is it? it is more like telling me to not try to force it on Wednesday but someone she would agree or would have good luck on Thursday?

 

[Hans_K]

33.4>54.3

Is there a typo here, because H33.4 changes into H53

 

[Hans_K]

Personally, I think H36.1 <> H15 is an answer to your question of what the blood test result is. Of the other 2 answers, I don't know.
The "problem" with interpreting the answer in this case is that a blood test can be done to determine or rule out something "negative" (disease) or something positive (e.g. a pregnancy).
There are clues in both H36 and H15 that this could be a pregnancy test.
H36.1 talks about not eating for 3 days (morning sickness?). The Judgment text of H15 talks about "The superior person carries things through to the end." This could be interpreted as a full-term pregnancy.

But when this is a blood test to determine something else, H36 and H15 will have a different meaning.
Is it possible, of course without giving personal information, what kind of blood test is involved? Determining something positive or ruling out something "negative".

 

[Topher]

Personally, I think H36.1 <> H15 is an answer to your question of what the blood test result is. Of the other 2 answers, I don't know.
The "problem" with interpreting the answer in this case is that a blood test can be done to determine or rule out something "negative" (disease) or something positive (e.g. a pregnancy).
There are clues in both H36 and H15 that this could be a pregnancy test.
H36.1 talks about not eating for 3 days (morning sickness?). The Judgment text of H15 talks about "The superior person carries things through to the end." This could be interpreted as a full-term pregnancy.

But when this is a blood test to determine something else, H36 and H15 will have a different meaning.
Is it possible, of course without giving personal information, what kind of blood test is involved? Determining something positive or ruling out something "negative".

it is regarding ruling out having any a disease. I assumed 36.1 was more like suggesting to not telling her to go on wednesday because she wouldnt accept it and while 8 mean like her agreeing to go with me but that isn't what I was asking, I think the iching interpreted it as me wanting to know if she would want to do the blood test that day

 

[Hans_K]

I think another answer is also possible. When I look at the answer from the trigrams I come to the following: H36 is Fire under the Mountain.
From Wen Wang Gua, H36 belongs to the Water Palace , which in the body refers to all bodily fluids. The combination with the lower trigram Fire (which is connected to the heart) indicates that this refers to the blood.
With the moving line at the first position of trigram Fire, this indicates that something is out of balance or different from normal in the blood.
Trigram Fire turns into Mountain which can indicate that the blood circulation is not optimal, or that the "imbalance" in the blood, is stagnating the Chi, life energy (for example fatigue). (Note: this says nothing about severity, it may be an "imbalance" that is easily remedied).
The top trigram in both cases is Earth, which is connected to the feminine. This can simply confirm that the answer is about a woman, but it can also indicate that the result of the blood test has to do specifically with being a woman.
H36.1, as I see it, indicates that the "problem" can be cured and/or remedied. The moving line is in the 1st position, it is the beginning of something that Mountain sets a limit or end to. The over active (yang) in line 1 becomes passive (yin).

Hope you got something out of this and as always: take what resonates and leave the rest

 

[Topher]

Is there a typo here, because H33.4 changes into H53

it is 34 Ops

 

[Topher]

I think another answer is also possible. When I look at the answer from the trigrams I come to the following: H36 is Fire under the Mountain.
From Wen Wang Gua, H36 belongs to the Water Palace , which in the body refers to all bodily fluids. The combination with the lower trigram Fire (which is connected to the heart) indicates that this refers to the blood.
With the moving line at the first position of trigram Fire, this indicates that something is out of balance or different from normal in the blood. Trigram Fire with a moving line is also about inflammations.
Trigram Fire turns into Mountain which can indicate that the blood circulation is not optimal, or that the "imbalance" in the blood, is stagnating the Chi, life energy (for example fatigue). (Note: this says nothing about severity, it may be an "imbalance" that is easily remedied).
The top trigram in both cases is Earth, which is connected to the feminine. This can simply confirm that the answer is about a woman, but it can also indicate that the result of the blood test has to do specifically with being a woman.
H36.1, as I see it, indicates that the "problem" can be cured and/or remedied. The moving line is in the 1st position, it is the beginning of something that Mountain sets a limit or end to. The over active (yang) in line 1 becomes passive (yin).

Hope you got something out of this and as always: take what resonates and leave the rest

Well it was a about a woman yes, but she wanted to rule out std.but I am not sure since I always asked to the iching about an image it was the literal meaning of the hexagram(but what you could say it is if it was a normal blood test she could have some imbalance which could be cured because she passed out recently and she could have anemia?, perhaps she should test both to rule out the possibility of something else

 

[Hans_K]

Did she test positive?

 

[Topher]

Did she test positive?

No, but that''s my enquiry regarding what would be the result, but she passed out(unrelated to this blood test query) some days ago.. and I think she might have anemia or something(because she felt dizzy ) now you mention that there is an imbalance maybe if it was a normal blood test it would show she has anemia? because she has other times told me she suffer from anemia.so it is what iching is showing with wen wang gua?

 

[Hans_K]

because she has other times told me she suffer from anemia.so it is what iching is showing with wen wang gua?

I am very cautious with my answer here because I am not a doctor and have no special medical knowledge. All the information I get is from the hexagram.
Let me put it this way, if someone with anemia came to me (diagnosis by a doctor) and received H36.1 as an answer to the question "how can I fix this" then I could have deduced from H36 via WWG and the hexagram itself, that there was something "wrong" with the blood, that something was out of balance. All the clues are there and also that there is a solution for it, that it is not something serious.

 

[Topher]

I am very careful with my answer because I am not a doctor and have no special medical knowledge. All the information I get is from the hexagram.
Let me put it this way, if someone with anemia came to me and received H36.1 as an answer to the question "how can I fix this" then I could have deduced from H36 via WWG and the hexagram itself, that there was something "wrong" with the blood. All the clues are there and also that there is a solution for it, that it is not something serious.

so if you think it is nothing serious it is probably referring to something that could have a solution it is most likely anemia

 

[Hans_K]

so if you think it is nothing serious it is probably referring to something that could have a solution it is most likely anemia

What I mean by it not being something serious is that it is fixable, that there is a solution to it. I can't and won't diagnose it, that's what doctors are for. Doctors diagnose and prescribe medication if necessary, I'm just interpreting hexagrams

 

[Topher]

What I mean by it not being something serious is that it is fixable, that there is a solution to it. I can't and won't diagnose it, that's what doctors are for. Doctors diagnose and prescribe medication if necessary, I'm just interpreting hexagrams

sure but I mean something that can fixable means it isnt that related to a srd, but it is more likely related to other blood chemical values, it is what I can infer from it

 

[Hans_K]

sure but I mean something that can fixable means it isnt that related to a srd, but it is more likely related to other blood chemical values, it is what I can infer from it

The WWG representation of the hexagram indicates that a solution exists for the imbalance in the blood, no matter what that imbalance is.

 

[Topher]

The WWG representation of the hexagram indicates that a solution exists for the imbalance in the blood, no matter what that imbalance is.

how likely is that the treatment /solution exist for the imbalance at the present time? like it is possible to treat with current modern medicine? that is the interpretation for having a solution?

 

[Hans_K]

how likely is that the treatment /solution exist for the imbalance at the present time?

There is a solution to the imbalance.

like it is possible to treat with current modern medicine?

The starting point of traditional Chinese and Western medicine are different. In general, it can be said that in the West we are mainly concerned with symptom treatment, while in traditional Chinese medicine, the cause of a disease is looked at first and foremost.
A perhaps slightly oversimplified example: When someone has a headache, a Westerner takes a pill for the headache, whereas traditional Chinese medicine first looks at how the Chi (life energy) has become out of balance which can cause the headache to manifest. The solution to the headache lies in rebalancing the Chi.

So the question is, what is a solution? In general (so not specific to this situation), a solution could also be to work on unprocessed trauma, or do certain exercises, accupuncture, etc. Anything that rebalances the imbalance in the Chi is a solution from the point of view of Traditional Chinese Medicine. Sometimes this can coincide with Western medicine and sometimes not.

 

[Topher]

There is a solution to the imbalance.

The starting point of traditional Chinese and Western medicine are different. In general, it can be said that in the West we are mainly concerned with symptom treatment, while in traditional Chinese medicine, the cause of a disease is looked at first and foremost.
A perhaps slightly oversimplified example: When someone has a headache, a Westerner takes a pill for the headache, whereas traditional Chinese medicine first looks at how the Chi (life energy) has become out of balance which can cause the headache to manifest. The solution to the headache lies in rebalancing the Chi.

So the question is, what is a solution? In general (so not specific to this situation), a solution could also be to work on unprocessed trauma, or do certain exercises, accupuncture, etc. Anything that rebalances the imbalance in the Chi is a solution from the point of view of Traditional Chinese Medicine. Sometimes this can coincide with Western medicine and sometimes not.

Sure but My question was related whether the solution being readily available in the present I suppose it is?

 

[Trojina]

As far as I can see you are asking people to speculate on readings about what might happen if she went for a blood test. Why not just go for the test and go from there? You seem to expect people here to be able to speak instead of medical tests.

From what I gather this is all about you wanting outcomes before going for tests, when you could just go for the test. A blood test takes about 30 seconds where replying here, guessing unknowns, being asked to supply information that cannot be given takes a great deal longer. If someone needs a blood test go and have the blood test don't expect people to know what the condition is or how it might be cured when they cannot know this and you can by just taking straight forward action.

 

[Topher]

As far as I can see you are asking people to speculate on readings about what might happen if she went for a blood test. Why not just go for the test and go from there? You seem to expect people here to be able to speak instead of medical tests.

From what I gather this is all about you wanting outcomes before going for tests, when you could just go for the test. A blood test takes about 30 seconds where replying here, guessing unknowns, being asked to supply information that cannot be given takes a great deal longer. If someone needs a blood test go and have the blood test don't expect people to know what the condition is or how it might be cured when they cannot know this and you can by just taking straight forward action.

While i understand your reasoning, there is some loopholes in your logic, first the blood test if something happened too recent it required some time to show up in a test, and and fi iching was (which I believe it is) ana ccurate divination tool it should be able be be able to show a representation of the future..

now I was told by her that she felt sick i think she might have the flu, so i was wondering if she had the flu now for sure need a blood test

 

[Trojina]

Well if a Dr says she needs a blood test then she needs one. It really does seem that simple to me. Perhaps I don't understand your questions.

In the UK Drs decide if you need a blood test you don't decide for yourself. Hence it is not clear to me why this is your decision. If this woman has symptoms it is up to the Dr/medical professional to decide if those symptoms warrant a blood test or not.