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I don't believe 22 is superficial at all
... you seem to be someone who doesn't like to consider even the existence of superficiality lol - perhaps 22 is trying to remind you that sometimes it is necessary to accept that?
Although I am far from being in any way knowledgeable about the Yi and most of the time go on pure instinct; it does make me wonder if some people's disdain of the superficial view of 22 is to do with perceived value (society tells us we should think superficial = not valuable) rather than the actual meaning of the hex.
I was thinking about Beauty and wondering if it is a purely human concept, or if Beauty was a force in the universe, like gravity or light. Surface of things is very important. If we didn't have surface, nothing would be separate from anything else. Just a thought..
I remember this as being an especially good thread on 22 http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/frien...f-grace…
and I like this quote from Bradford on that thread
"Problem is, Grace is a bad word to use to summarize the hexagram's meaning.
It's more about things that catch the eye in such a way as to prevent the deeper
and longer view. The mountain is lit up by the flame below, and it looks pretty.
But you can see no farther. Closer to the core meaning is nearsightedness,
but more literally, ornamentation or superficiality. The mountain goat needs
to be nearsighted to pick his way up the mountain - he wants each of his steps
to be real, so there is a place for nearsightedness in how graceful his ascent is.
It's a common rookie error to get a single English word stuck in your head to be
the primary representative of a hexagram's meaning. It's also a big mistake to
think of one hexagram as more fortunate than another."
THE RIGHT WORD
No one wants to be accused of being superficial or shallow, two adjectives that literally indicate a lack of depth a superficial wound; a shallow grave).
Superficial suggests too much concern with the surface or obvious aspects of something, and it is considered a derogatory term because it connotes a personality that is not genuine or sincere.
Shallow is even more derogatory because it implies not only a refusal to explore something deeply but an inability to feel, sympathize, or understand. It is unlikely that a shallow person, in other words, will ever have more than superficial relationships with his or her peers.
Cursory, which may or may not be a derogatory term, suggests a lack of thoroughness or attention to detail a cursory glance at the newspaper), while hasty emphasizes a refusal or inability to spend the necessary time on something a hasty review of the facts).
If you are slapdash in your approach, it means that you are both careless and hasty a slapdash job of cleaning up).
THE RIGHT WORD
No one wants to be accused of being superficial or shallow, two adjectives that literally indicate a lack of depth a superficial wound; a shallow grave).
Superficial suggests too much concern with the surface or obvious aspects of something, and it is considered a derogatory term because it connotes a personality that is not genuine or sincere.
Shallow is even more derogatory because it implies not only a refusal to explore something deeply but an inability to feel, sympathize, or understand. It is unlikely that a shallow person, in other words, will ever have more than superficial relationships with his or her peers.
Cursory, which may or may not be a derogatory term, suggests a lack of thoroughness or attention to detail a cursory glance at the newspaper), while hasty emphasizes a refusal or inability to spend the necessary time on something a hasty review of the facts).
If you are slapdash in your approach, it means that you are both careless and hasty a slapdash job of cleaning up).
'Superficial' IS a derogatory term. The reason I have strongly objected to it being used for 22 is because it leaves a big part of the hexagram unexamined and can create a false idea of understanding any answer . . Have you noticed how titles or key-words for hexagrams induce ways of examining them? We tend to study with more gravity, say, 26, than 22 - it's how our brains operate. All I'm saying is that we need to pay the same attention and study with the same depth all hexagrams. The rest is other peoples' thoughts of what I might think
(btw, I don't think this discussion belongs here, if people wish to go on, better move it somewhere more suitable - unless of course anemos doesn't mind)
Problem is, Grace is a bad word to use to summarize the hexagram's meaning.
It's more about things that catch the eye in such a way as to prevent the deeper
and longer view. The mountain is lit up by the flame below, and it looks pretty.
But you can see no farther. Closer to the core meaning is nearsightedness,
but more literally, ornamentation or superficiality. The mountain goat needs
to be nearsighted to pick his way up the mountain - he wants each of his steps
to be real, so there is a place for nearsightedness in how graceful his ascent is.
It's a common rookie error to get a single English word stuck in your head to be
the primary representative of a hexagram's meaning. It's also a big mistake to
think of one hexagram as more fortunate than another."
context is vital
A superficial wound is far preferable to the deep, internal, all pervasive one
It also depends on what dictionary you use http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/superficial
I am deeply amused by the irony of this situation..we have someone who refuses to consider the meaning of superficiality in anything other than a superficial way
22 seems to enter in the same list with hex 44 , lol
It also depends on what dictionary you use http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/superficial
I am deeply amused by the irony of this situation..we have someone who refuses to consider the meaning of superficiality in anything other than a superficial way
after some meetings and a certain amount of disappointments I'm in two minds whether its wise to pursue a certain collaboration. What they offer has some disadvantages in important aspects yet, i could benefit in some other although the quality is questionable. Because i have no other alternative in this area I asked Yi - to get an idea of how to "relate" with them.
"what kind of relationship is feasible with them ? " 22
"H22 in which sense ?" : 48.2.4>31
its not a clear "no" , that things can't work out yet not that thrilling readings
Any ideas ?
The irony, PG, is that this misses the point I have repeatedly made. If you've read my interpretation in this thread you've seen that I don't 'deny' anything. I am making it a point though to add ANOTHER point of view, usually unheard - so please, before you amuse yourself with ironies, take a closer look
However, hexagram twenty two can also indicate that we are being accepted. It indicates that we can be accepted into the situation, and that we can fit in. I would not recommend doing a second reading if you don't understand the first. I recommend deeper analysis. Not just analysis, but a period of meditation on the answer.
Gene
gene;175569 hexagram twenty two can also indicate that we are being accepted. It indicates that we can be accepted into the situation said:eh? That's a new one on me - how does fitting in fit 22??
Read the W/B commentary on the fifth line. Although the fifth line is not the ruler of the hexagram in this case, it generally shows the meaning of the hexagram as a whole. The third line also lends itself to this in showing the charm in the situation. The hexagram as a whole indicates a situation of beauty and grace which is in itself a symbol of acceptance. In terms of the trigrams, the feminine light below, bestows beauty, grace, simplicity, and acceptance on the masculine upper trigram of the mountain.
Gene
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