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I learned from my last posting to translate my own interpretation before asking for advice, so here goes:
I asked: Is it advisable to hope for connection with D? And got:

51 1.3.5.>31
I am in love with someone at work and we have flirted with each other over the last 8 months. He just came back from a two week holiday and I was excited to see him again, but I feel he has lost interest. My reading seems to suggest that there are some hard knocks I must learn before anything between us can happen. Learn the lesson, face the music, move on, and all will be well.I'm also cognisant that I must stop gossiping at work, and to just focus on mytask at hand. There's been a hot bed of political decision making regarding my position at work and he's in a management position, though is not directly involved in the decision making.The resulting Hex puzzles me. Does Hex 31 suggest there is a possibility that there is still something between us? A possibility for connection?
 
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Well your question was: "Is it Advisable to hope?"

So thats what the answer adresses.
Not a possiblity of a connection.

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51.1.3.5

line 1 - is the ruler, the shocking energy turns into joy.
line 3 - Is saying move with the energy that is there.
line 5 - is saying old memories and the past comes up, but you should remain in the present.

31. is about influence.

So It saying yes - it is advisable to hope, let this hope influence you.
 

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Hello!

I think it is a positive message.

The first hexagram is composed of two similar, supporting trigrams.Flirting represents that spring energy of lightheartedness, and a youthful stage between 2 people, and thunder doubled is a clear representation of this. Interesting how no lines correspond at this stage...

The hexagram it turns into is fascinating. Mountain below Lake. Complementary trigrams... each line has a correspondance. It's as if the tension has disappeared, but instead something has cleared a path for a deeper connection on multuple levels.
The inner trigram Mountain may imply that it's the ending of one stage and the beginning of a new one, that perhaps the flirting stage is changing, and that through sincere talking (Lake as the mouth), not flirting, you will figure out exactly what that stage is and its qualities. If you've know each other 8 months, there surely is substance to your relationship/friendship.

Wishing you great happiness

Schastlivchik
 

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I asked: Is it advisable to hope for connection with D? And got:

51 1.3.5.>31

Basically this is very good and you can hope away very nicely as I see that there is a mutual attraction between the two of you.
 

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I learned from my last posting to translate my own interpretation before asking for advice, so here goes:
I asked: Is it advisable to hope for connection with D? And got:

51 1.3.5.>31
I am in love with someone at work and we have flirted with each other over the last 8 months. He just came back from a two week holiday and I was excited to see him again, but I feel he has lost interest. My reading seems to suggest that there are some hard knocks I must learn before anything between us can happen. Learn the lesson, face the music, move on, and all will be well.I'm also cognisant that I must stop gossiping at work, and to just focus on mytask at hand. There's been a hot bed of political decision making regarding my position at work and he's in a management position, though is not directly involved in the decision making.The resulting Hex puzzles me. Does Hex 31 suggest there is a possibility that there is still something between us? A possibility for connection?

I would personally be very wary about placing hope on a relationship due to an I Ching reading. They fluctuate more than anything and often give a picture of your feeling at the moment. I don't see this reading as promising anything - but saying theres alot of excitement and instability around at the moment playing against a backdrop of the attraction you feel between you - or one could see it the other way around - that the turmoil of 51 increases or leads to the attraction in some way - People vary alot how they see the relating hexagram - go by your feeling. Anyway I think the counsel is to to try to keep calm about the whole situation -its all quite nerve wracking and as there is trouble at work - and hes in that environment with you its all highly charged.
But I think the Yi says you will be fine if you keep you don't let all this throw you off balance, keep your cool and it looks like you 'incur no losses' (line 5)
 

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Thanks all for the great feedback. My situation with D is complicated due, in part, because o the political hotbed I am in, and my not knowing his position in this. Therein lies the stalemate between us at this time. If he were to ask me out, I'd be willing, but it seems he wants me to make the first move, as I've let it be known to others that I like him. (I am the female in this equation).
Trojan:
That the turmoil of 51 increases or leads to the attraction in some way - People vary alot how they see the relating hexagram - go by your feeling. I've been attracted to him since I first saw him over a year ago - well before this work turnoil arose.
I will heed your advice, while understanding that one takes a reading knowing we still have choice which can change the circumstance at any time. The reading simply gives us a barometer reading as to the current situation.
Willowfox and Cyclonotronmajesty - perhaps I should've been more direct with my question and took the "hope" out of it as it weakens the position of my answer.
Schastlivchik - I've actually known him for over a year and liked him the minute I saw him. But it's a work relationship, and difficult to proceed further due to potential complications.
 
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Hi hexagon, do you not think that he had likely to come to another encounter during his two weeks get away?
 

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There is a possibility he has found someone else. He confided in someone that he is "looking" with the possibility of knowing I would hear that. Youi - Your question prompted me to ask another: Is it advisable to ask D out? and got 11.5.6 > 9.
Funny - I received 11.5 with a previous question with D in mind. A fortuitous answer, but overshadowed by line 6 which says confusion ensues. Union between us, while great at the time, will end in humiliation. Resulting Hex 9 advises to simply go about with your daily duties - chop wood, carry water. In other words, distance yourself from the conflict and all will be well.
I read this to mean that No, it is not advisable to ask him out - while initially powerful, in the end it would be disastrous.
Question to all - does this reflect my whole relationship with D - to forget about him, or does it simply reflect the answer to my question - whether or not to ask him out?
 

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hexagon, since there is conscious connection between situation and the Hex, in fact, #51 speaks more than we can imagine. For example, #51 also indicate your relationship is often not in harmony. etc... BTW, there is no need to cast Hex for each question asked which I have explained in another thread earlier. Since you have cast it anyway, we will just take it in for your reference.

Your analysis is some what correct. I would just elaborate on it and add on bit of opinion. #11 may seems to be indicating harmony, and #9, maybe like what you have said. While these Hexes can be pictorialize as such - you are in more of knowing yourself and have set on what you want (#11), you even try to attempt to initial the talks (#54 mutual) with him but it remains not done (#9)... You are already decided (Trigram Qian) but he is somehow undecided (trigram Kun) but happily enjoying the mobility (#54) he has for choices (#9). Of his holding power he is able to wait and see as he is observing what is around him.

Now, looking at the picture, you should be talking to him (#11). I mean, you will talk to him (#54). There is nothing wrong about that but DO NO EXPECT immediate and favourable returns because he is in a wait-and-see state (2 moving lines). The key is do not expect or even think about EXPECTATION (what you want in return) as this will only puts in unnecessary pressure. Your initialization will touch and enable him to register to his mind for him to see further (#9).

2c for your reference.
 
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Thank you youyi. I had overlooked my earlier reading. This last reading about our relationship has given me insight. I am not interested in a one night stand with him. And 11.6 suggests that once harmony (union) takes place, the walls go up - our defense mechanisms - and communication is lost. Our relationship settles into one of "go back to work as though nothing has happened."
 

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"Is it advisable to ask D out? and got 11.5.6 > 9."

Quite simply, this is not the time to be asking him out, the situation is not stable. But, it does say to prepare yourself in order to ask him out at a later date, then you will be successful.
 

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Thanks Willowfox. Just when I was about to throw in the towel. Or at least try to - though the vagaries of love is like a strong magnet pulling one in a direction beyond one's control. I probably would not have been able to let go even if I tried. Except if he did, then I would too. But doesn't the reading Hex 11.6>9 indicate a possible one night stand? I wouldn't want that, although it would allow all this pent up energy to move somewhere out of our heads!
 

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