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The pentagram theory depends on a feature of the line statements of fifteen hexagrams (1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 13, 15, 18, 27, 31, 33, 36, 56, 58, and 59), where a key word or theme occurs in only five of the statements. In Hexagram 36 ‘Crying pheasant’, for instance, the word for ‘crying pheasant’ occurs in only five lines. The sixth line statement seems to be an intrusion and may be a later addition. When the intrusion is removed from each of the fifteen, the resulting pentagram drawings are all different from each other.
—Richard Rutt, Zhouyi (2007, p.96)
The pentagram idea is consistent with the idea that the complete gua are historically primary, and the trigrams are a later addition.
The study of this is known as Xiangshu Jia, Image and Number School.
Couldn't the pentagram theory be chance occurrence rather than deliberate design? For example, the "key word or theme" may occur from zero to six times. Are there occasions where it occurs two or three times? To sort all this out is a bit of trouble, and one would have to look for repetition of Chinese characters.
Hi bradford
I typed Xiangshu Jia in google and am not getting anything good.
Let me know if you know of any specific books on the subject.
p.s. The pentagram idea is consistent with the idea that the complete gua are historically primary, and the trigrams are a later addition. I myself don’t pay as much attention to the trigrams as some people do.
—Russell
Sorry for interrupting, but isn't this 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 thing already "explained" in 'Ten Helpers'?
Quoting myselfWhat I get:
Duality symbolized:
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The interation of those 2 symbolized in all possibilities:
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What I do not get:
Why didn't the structure then go from the interacting of those possibilities creating Quadgrams?
[What I do not get:
Why didn't the structure then go from the interacting of those possibilities creating Quadgrams?
What is Ten Helpers? (I am sure this is right infront of my face, but I cannot see beyond my nose right now)
Are you 1 of 10 of my helpers?
I am trying to figure out why there are 6 spots to each hexagram. I think I need math and philosophy to complete my understanding..
Do you have the Wilhelm translation? It is in the Ta Chuan, Part 1, chapter 2. An explanation of sorts is in there.
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