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Why does society do X and Y insanity?
Reply:
Hexagram 39 Unchanging.
I asked a question and got the same answer I got the last time I asked about society on a broad level about it's insanity. Just reading the news, and looking at media, i'm just appalled beyond any ability to really integrate it.
My question was both times basically (both 2 years ago and recently):
Why does society do X and Y insanity?
Reply:
Hexagram 39 Unchanging.
Water on the top of a mountian cannot flow down in accordance with its nature, because rocks hinder it. It must stand still (hexagram 12?). This causes it to increase, and the inner accumulation finally becomes so great that it overflows the barriers. The way of overcoming obstacles lies in turning inward and raising one's own being to a higher level.
So is this saying that society has "issues" or more apocryphal: "difficulties" that need to be resolved? I mean thats pretty much how I took it.
What do you all think? We need a higher level of consciousness presto or insanity in human society will go on... :bows:
Are you really saying homosexuality may be caused through stress and pressure. How bizarre.
39 isn't especially about stress and pressure, thats more of a 28 thing. 39 may feel stressful if you keep on trying to push through an obstcles in the same way as you always have done.
What ! it sounds like you are lumping homosexuality in with choosing the wrong career or kids egging a picture window ! sounds like you are saying homosexuality is a mistake or misbehaviour like choosing the 'wrong' career . You really think homosexuality is a mistake or something ! ? Or worse you compare homosexuality to wife beating ! Do you think homosexuality is a social problem ! ? Really !
Tell me I have mistaken your meaning....please... Tell me I am wrong and you don't think homosexuality is some sort of 'mistake' like a bad career choice, or 'naughty' like throwing eggs at windows....or violent like wife beating !
I did not say fetishism had anything to do with homosexuality in particular. !! And of course I know there are all kinds of fetishes I said so earlier in another post. I even said 'fetish' was not a word that had to be limited to sexuality but most often was in the way we use it here in UK anyway. Oh yes and no need to describe to me what fetishes are ......I do know which you could see if you had read any of my earlier posts.
You seem to have absolutely no idea of what my point was which was not about homosexuality per se but the fact that one cannot point at a cause of a 'disgusting festish' without knowing what it is ...and used homosexuality as an example because if Cyclo views it as a fetish...(which i don't know if he does or not) then by answering as if it is one is agreeing implicitly that there is something perverse or corrupt that gives rise to the 'fetish'...whatever it may be, which one may not choose to do. Well I don't choose to but you obviously don't give a toss so you go ahead but please don't misconstrue what I said in the first place.
As you are incapable of seeing my point I'll leave it there. BTW though homosexuality may have no especial relevance here, I'd say that actually some people may think homosexuality is a choice, some don't. So thats just your opinion anyway
I'm into rubber chickens, but not roosters.
Btw, fwiw, speaking of fetishes, the modern BDSM culture was born within and grew from out of the leather homosexual community.
I've known gays and lesbians who were born that way. A client of mine, a young Christian woman, was desperate because she or her husband couldn't understand why their 4 year old boy was always in his mother's closet, dressing up in her great big high heeled shoes and her other more delicate and feminine apparel. I was also present the day a male friend of mine made his decision to pursue the gay lifestyle. There is no one reason or answer, no one size fits all reason why we are what we are or become what we become.
So long as it's safe, sane and consensual between adults, it really doesn't matter to me what someone's sexual choices or natural inclinations are. So much for my personal bias.
I found Arabella's association of 39 with all of these, and similar complex matters, very interesting. A young boy with an overly strict and punitive father and overly protective mother faces greater social developmental obstructions than a boy raised by mutually supportive parents, and the results between those two examples are likely to reflect in their sexual preferences. I'm not morally judging either. Both happen, just as bisexuality and heterosexuality happens through natural genetics and also as learned and developed preferences and behaviors. In the broadest sense, we all are formed by the obstructions we have been presented with, including our family, the schools we attend, the neighborhood we grow up in, and the people we hang out with, and what we make of them in ourselves.
However, I don't eliminate the possibility that the obstruction in CM's readings pertained to his own outlook on these things: obstructed.
well obviously I do not see what I have written as just an 'exersize in words'. The question is important to others understanding of any answer for a person IMO but in your opinion it has no relevance at all . Good luck with your questions !
Because you do not like my opinion does not mean all I have written is pointless, at least no more pointless than what you have written.
ironic then that you recently cast hexagram 6. Maybe it would actually help you to recognise arguing rather than pretend its something else. Now that really is pointless.
I deleted all the posts as I had enough of this whole space and need one of them 'forum breaks'.... perhaps they should be mandatory. As I said in PM I am sorry this turned into hostility to you, it shouldn't have done, wasn't really fair.
now i am on holiday.....
...and BTW when i was referring to the hex 6 and recognising it i wasn't infact thinking of you recognising it in the reading you did a few days ago but here on the forum in this thread. It was the comment about arguing just reminded me of the hex 6 and what was happening here...not in relation to your actual reading then. I wouldn't deliberately betray trust in a reading like that though i can see why you'd think I was...but actually the subject of that reading wasn't it my mind when i made the comment
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