trojan said:

It's saying "well what do you think ?".

When you choose what to eat for yourself it's your choice. Some people may say "this kind of food is healthy...eat this food" and others may say "no eat this food it's better", but only you know what food suits your body. That's what your answer is saying.

I've said before if you are mentally unwell and using I Ching stresses you then STOP using it. You can go back to it later.

For some people sometimes I Ching of course may foster spiritual growth (whatever that is....and if you are unwell that is your priority,,,,never mind spiritual growth)

This answer is for you. No answer is general or can be generalised to everyone although 27uc seems spot on here.


Oranges may be good for many people but for some people oranges give them bad guts. Simple, only eat oranges if they agree with you !


The way you are talking on other threads I think it's time you gave Yi a break. That is just my opinion.

Sounds to me like you need less head action and more body action.

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bradford said:

The Yijing is for character and ethical development, not for new age doo-doo.
Gua 27 speaks in a couple of places about trying to nourish yourself with drivel.
You can tell indirectly because the angel or spirit talk doesn't make your life any
better in reality, while you wonder why you remain in confusion.
Start with character, and with who you are in this world.

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bradford said:

I was referring to these lines:

27.1
Forsaking your spirit tortoise*
Looking at me with hungry mouth hanging open
Disappointing

27.2
Subverted appetites
Dismissing the customary,
Going into the hills hungering
Going boldly into failure

27.3
Dismissing the appetites
Persistence has pitfalls
For ten years not to be functional
Is not a direction with merit

Although you got 27 unchanging, one doesn't understand the core meaning of a gua until all six lines can be understood in terms of this core (and conversely, you don't understand a line text until you can see it as an expression of the overall gua meaning).

The Yi seems to be advocating substantial nourishment that addresses real needs and hungers. Most of Western new age spirituality, by contrast is vacuous escapism, self-delusion and and narcissism. If it was real it would be giving you real guidance and solutions to the problems and complexities in your life, even the least of the day-to-day stuff. Your "pathless path" does not seem to be offering that guidance.

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dragona said:

A quick thought- too much of anything is just too much. So if you think you are leaning or ab(using) or whatever IC, than you probably need to take a break. It is as simple as that.
From personal experience, first book on the subject I had was not an original IC but I was in the different place of mind than now and its self-referal points of view certainly helped me to endure what I had to go through easier and take the higher ground. Any wise book can only help broaden your mind, IMO.

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wisewoman said:

Surely Taoist means 'pathless', because you are not following a pre-set way but finding your own way bit by bit. The path is very much for the individual to find for themselves. This is not New Age at all, but the core of Taoism?
There is a point when the 'self' disappears, when the SELF becomes all that is real. Real so-called spiritual development moves in that very direction.................It is when we become 'nothing' that we can truly become who we really are?
Why do you see this as New Age?

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bradford said:

This has nothing to do with Daoism, at least not the Dao that Laozi and Zhuangzi are referring to. This is a view of Dao that has been mangled first by religious Daoism (Daojiao) and then by Western "culture." Dao means "path," plain and simple, the way things move and evolve in the real world. It does not mean "pathless path." To twist it around like this is just what the new agers do when, for instance, they see Jung's "collective unconscious" and insist on interpreting it as "universal consciousness."

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wisewoman said:

The questions I ask are not necessarily those which are bugging me right this moment but are questions that repeatedly occur and reflect a genuine search for truth.

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