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What is the potential for me achieving my goal?
63.1.5 > 15

(sounds like I need to proceed now with an important move or transition. Push forward despite difficulty. Keep things simple and avoid ostentation. Future: act moderately. Avoid extremes. Cut through pride) So... do something now, right?

What if I do [action x]?
45.3.5 > 62

(Band together around mutual goals and shared feelings. --> attend to details that need sorting out)


What if I don't do [action x]?
22.1.2.5 > 50

(recognize the importance of appearances and transform the current situation with imagination). What???????????

What if I do [action y]?
1 unchanging

(persist with firm action). So again, do something right? Isn't there some special rule for when you get hex 1 unchanging? Like there's a 7th line or something?

What if I don't do [action y]?
11.1.2 > 15

(expand and prosper. What you do now will have good consequences. Remain calm and tolerant during difficult times --> Act moderately, avoid extremes).

So doing [action y] is "persist with firm action" and not doing [action y] is "having good consequences." I'm confused.

How do I obtain my goal?
2.3 > 15

(allow myself to yield or follow. Act moderately. Avoid extremes)

I'm confused again. The potential to achieve my goal (first question) was "proceed now with an important move or transition", but the way to obtain my goal is to yield?

How do I actively yield?

How do I yield (hexagram 2 from previous question) in order to obtain my goal?
41.2.4 > 21

(reduce my involvement. Offer help according to your means and ability. With help, faults can be eliminated. --> grasp the nettle. Take decisive action) A few translations of 41.2 say to "to undertake something brings misfortune."

Totally confused on this one, too.

And look at all those 15's in the future!



edit - I accidentally had 43.3.5 > 62 before, which was wrong. I changed it to 45.3.5 > 62.
 
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Hi there,
its not an interpretation, but a general observation...the 2nd hexagram isn't necessarily the 'future', I think if you assume that movement from the first to the second represents a development in terms of time you can miss a lot. Sometimes it is, but often I find that the first hexagram represents the heart of the question, but the second can be seen as context or even background for the whole situation. Hope that makes sense!
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I think the over all advice is that you take things one step at a time. Take an action, but don't go too far out on a limb before you once again evaluate your choices.

It's when you get all change lines with hexagram 1 that there is a special meaning,
"When all the lines are nines, it means:
"There appears a flight of dragons without heads.
"Good fortune."
-Wilhelm
 

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Hi there,
its not an interpretation, but a general observation...the 2nd hexagram isn't necessarily the 'future', I think if you assume that movement from the first to the second represents a development in terms of time you can miss a lot. Sometimes it is, but often I find that the first hexagram represents the heart of the question, but the second can be seen as context or even background for the whole situation. Hope that makes sense!
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Oh really? I read in a Karcher book that the 2nd hex was the future based on the action of the changing lines, so I tended to avoid courses of action where the 2nd hex was something bad.

How do you know if it is representing the future (since you said that is sometimes) or if it's context/background?
 

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Fo me its often intuitive, depending on the question I asked, and what I understand about the answer, basically I'm looking at themes and how things fit together logically. For example I asked a 'what will happen when' question about my relationship yesterday (something I do far too often!! :)) and got 11:1,3,6 to 4, my second 11 of the day relating to relationship matters. If I interpret this as a progression of time, this will happen, then this, it makes no sense to me. It made much more sense to see it as ups and downs (11:1,3,6) and a reminder that I can't avoid uncertainty, or not knowing, and to stop asking too many questions (4)!
I think its a really important question though, and many people may disagree with me. Maybe worth starting a thread over in exploring divination about how to interpret the 2nd hex? I'd be really interested in other's opinions...
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