New scientific evidence of changes on the sun

gene · May 6, 2011

There has been new evidence that the nuclear force of the sun is changing. One part of that is that the half life of nuclear particles is changing. Experiments have shown that when this happens there are also changes in the nature of life on the planet.

We are entering a new part of the galaxy with a different energy. I have discussed this before. Now the evidence is there. This is exactly what the Mayans were talking about. The fifth age of humanity is about to start. There will be a great effort to coverup this knowledge as long as possible. But it cannot be stopped indefinitely. Also the evidence points to a consciousness within the sun. It is alive. This cannot be denied any longer, though it will take a while for everyone to understand this.

To get a more detailed, and more accurate discussion of this, go to:

http://www.unknowncountry.com/revelations/latest

and:

http://voiceentertainment.net/

Gene

bamboo · May 6, 2011

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arabella · May 6, 2011

Well, since we can't imagine "quadrillion's" of anything, it's all on faith anyway -- no?

Blessed are those who have not seen -- yet believe?

Of course the mind is extremely powerful and it's been proved in many ways -- including healing. Also, touch is powerful in healing. Of course we all have an energy "signature," but the source of attraction between people is far more than just that.

The two greatest powers in the world -- prayer and music.

gene · May 6, 2011

In matters such as these it is always wisest to look at the evidence per se, without resorting to emotional feelings about how our world works based on the way we want it to be or think it should be. Thinking something shouldn't be a certain way doesn't mean it isn't that way. Many people are going to be in for some very big surprises very soon.

Gene

Trojina · May 7, 2011

gene said:
In matters such as these it is always wisest to look at the evidence per se, without resorting to emotional feelings about how our world works based on the way we want it to be or think it should be. Thinking something shouldn't be a certain way doesn't mean it isn't that way. Many people are going to be in for some very big surprises very soon.
Gene

I should think you will be very surprised if these people don't get this big surprise you reckon they are going to get though I guess at any one time all over the globe someone is being surprised about something so you can't to be too far wrong in your statement "Many people are going to be in for some very big suprises very soon" it would be rather remarkable if they weren't given the number of people on the planet and the number of suprising events that can assail a human being.

It could be you are the most suprised of them all when things turn out to be not what you thought at all

I mean in your certainty of a number of events occurring you are going to be about the most suprised person on the planet IMO

I just hope you like suprises

gene · May 7, 2011

Trojan

The thing you are missing is that science is proving me right, beyond any shadow of a doubt. We have already seen major changes on the earth, and everything I have talked about is coming to pass. How am I going to be surprised? That is not even possible. Some people here live in a dream world. I can back up everything I say with science, and the events transpiring right now on earth are just as I predicted. That is hardly a surprise.

Gene

Tohpol · May 7, 2011

And the thing that you are missing Gene that this is not about you.

Trojina · May 7, 2011

gene said:
Trojan

The thing you are missing is that science is proving me right, beyond any shadow of a doubt. We have already seen major changes on the earth, and everything I have talked about is coming to pass. How am I going to be surprised? That is not even possible. Some people here live in a dream world. I can back up everything I say with science, and the events transpiring right now on earth are just as I predicted. That is hardly a surprise.

Gene

instead of duplicating a rant I'll link to this thread to a rant i made earlier about how all 'dreamworld' stuff is a bit too frequent IMO. The thread may be of interest to you anyway...perhaps ? Perhaps you would share your views on Bin Ladens death

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?p=137402

arabella · May 7, 2011

trojan said:
instead of duplicating a rant I'll link to this thread to a rant i made earlier about how all 'dreamworld' stuff is a bit too frequent IMO. The thread may be of interest to you anyway...perhaps ? Perhaps you would share your views on Bin Ladens death

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?p=137402

I may be wrong T, but I think this concern with "gullibility" and believing in authority figures who have long ago lost the mandate and the plot, is a particularly American phenomenon -- or maybe began there anyhow. I had that feeling so strongly, having left the USA just after 9/11 and never going back. I felt betrayed because the whole thing was entirely unbelievable and had as many holes in that story as Swiss cheese.

If you want an eye-opener on the beginnings of clearing the air on all this rubbish government watch the movie, "JFK" and it will give you a clue what Gene is worried about. Everything. When your government is this underhanded, you feel the need to question everything.
From there the ridiculousness of it all just trundles on, having begun with George Bush getting elected by shenanigans in the elections in the State where his brother was Governor, and pushed through by a Supreme Court whose latest members were put in place by his father. How believable is THAT?

The USA has lost its integrity in nearly every way you can imagine -- a place where I was once proud to be and proud to be "from." It's sliding down the drain and sometimes I imagine it is so odd a sensation to people it seems that next the Sun must be planning to devour us, or perhaps that the human mind might alter completely -- why not? Who ever thought that the USA would be at the bottom of so many dirty deals -- the land of the free and the home of the brave? Not me, not twenty years ago. Now? Another story completely and truly glad I don't live there anymore when I hear how people are treated over phoney terrorism.

Another good example of government terrorism there, by the way, is the anthrax scare. The government threw it out there, i feel certain, to see what would happen and how panicky people would become. It was "created" in a government laboratory -- as was swine flu. And the likes of Donald Rumsfeld, the then Secretary of Defense, bought a major interest in the pharmaceutical antidotes for both diseases. At the very least, I think it's called "making your luck" at the expense of the rest of us.

If you want to understand the fear that people like Gene are feeling watch the movie "JFK" if you've never seen it. It's a window on what the rest of recent years in the USA has been like. A government that cares nothing for its people and barely trying to keep a veil over the underhanded proceedings they are so arrogant. It won't ultimately matter, I don't believe, whether people "wake up" or not. The power has already been taken from them and invested in this pitiful mindgame. Who will be surprised some day, I would hope, are the perpetrators. Sooner or later, the house of cards is coming down.

gene · May 7, 2011

Hi Arabella, and everyone.

There appear to be misconceptions about what I am trying to say. First of all, there is nothing in my posts that would indicate it is "all about me." That is completely on the other side of the firewall. It has no bearing.

Second, I agree with what Arabella is saying except with one littel detail. I am not afraid. I see this as an overall positive thing in the long run. It is a time of great hope, and great prosperity is coming, but only after we go through the cycle. And it is going to hurt a lot of people in the meantime. When a baby is born, the mother goes through great peril, great pain and suffering, but eventually the baby is born. That is exactly what is happening here.

A lot of people are going to die, but not everyone. And those who do in many ways are the lucky ones. They get to be reincarnated in a better world. There is nothing fearful about death. Consciousness cannot be extinguished, it goes on forever.

Now,after all that. About Bin Ladin's death. I don't know. I simply don't know. The conspiracy theorist are saying that it is baloney, that he died years ago. Maybe, maybe not. The government's story could very well be true. But if it is, why do they refuse to show the pictures. Surely no intellgent person can believe that it is due to fear of horrifying kids, etc. Or the other reasons. Kids watch TV shows all the time in which all kinds of violence is perpetuated. They claimed to have the DNA tests back immediately after his death. That is rather unusual to say the least. They claimed to bury him at sea. Very convenient if they don't want anyone to see the body. On the other hand, what about the wives? What about the protests going on in Great Britain?

There is no way for me personally at this point in time to know the truth of this matter. I do know this. Modern technology allows the government to make anything, and I mean anything appear real. They can create fake images of wars, of famine, of bombings, they can do anything. At least some of the experts think the birth certificate of Obama is fake. Do I know if it is? No, I have no idea. But I do know that for any president in our history, if the birth was uncertain, they were required to show a birth certificate. Why didn't Obama, until prominent people started pushing the issue. Months ago the hospitals in Hawaii said they couldn't find one for him...

Those of you in Britain. I apologize that I know litte about what is going on in Britain. I can't keep up with everything. I do hear at times about draconian laws being placed on the books, and such things, but I just don't know. It appears to me in reverse though that many of you in Britain know very little about what is going on in the U.S. We have a financial crisis here that is threatening the very fabric of this nation. This is not conspiracy theory, this is something all the financial experts know. It can't be hidden anymore that the U.S. currency is about to be replaced by the Chinese yin in world trade. It is also well known that we are about to get a new currency for pennies on the dollar, which will destroy many peoples lives. This is not conspiracy theory, this is well known. I don't think people in other parts of the world are aware of how seriously bankrupt the U.S. is. And there is only one reason for it. Someone has planned it this way.

Arabella has a good grasp on what is going on. The things she said,are really true. I was living in Florida when George Bush got elected. And you can count on it, there were shennanigans going on.

It is foolish to continue to believe that everything is okay, when we see daily in mainstream newspapers that it is not. Some people in some parts of the world may not be able to see what is happening here. Those here who don't see it, don't want to see it, because deep down inside it scares them too much.

Gene

arabella · May 7, 2011

gene said:
Hi Arabella, and everyone.

There appear to be misconceptions about what I am trying to say. First of all, there is nothing in my posts that would indicate it is "all about me." That is completely on the other side of the firewall. It has no bearing.

Second, I agree with what Arabella is saying except with one littel detail. I am not afraid. I see this as an overall positive thing in the long run. It is a time of great hope, and great prosperity is coming, but only after we go through the cycle. And it is going to hurt a lot of people in the meantime. When a baby is born, the mother goes through great peril, great pain and suffering, but eventually the baby is born. That is exactly what is happening here.

A lot of people are going to die, but not everyone. And those who do in many ways are the lucky ones. They get to be reincarnated in a better world. There is nothing fearful about death. Consciousness cannot be extinguished, it goes on forever.

Now,after all that. About Bin Ladin's death. I don't know. I simply don't know. The conspiracy theorist are saying that it is baloney, that he died years ago. Maybe, maybe not. The government's story could very well be true. But if it is, why do they refuse to show the pictures. Surely no intellgent person can believe that it is due to fear of horrifying kids, etc. Or the other reasons. Kids watch TV shows all the time in which all kinds of violence is perpetuated. They claimed to have the DNA tests back immediately after his death. That is rather unusual to say the least. They claimed to bury him at sea. Very convenient if they don't want anyone to see the body. On the other hand, what about the wives? What about the protests going on in Great Britain?

There is no way for me personally at this point in time to know the truth of this matter. I do know this. Modern technology allows the government to make anything, and I mean anything appear real. They can create fake images of wars, of famine, of bombings, they can do anything. At least some of the experts think the birth certificate of Obama is fake. Do I know if it is? No, I have no idea. But I do know that for any president in our history, if the birth was uncertain, they were required to show a birth certificate. Why didn't Obama, until prominent people started pushing the issue. Months ago the hospitals in Hawaii said they couldn't find one for him...

Those of you in Britain. I apologize that I know litte about what is going on in Britain. I can't keep up with everything. I do hear at times about draconian laws being placed on the books, and such things, but I just don't know. It appears to me in reverse though that many of you in Britain know very little about what is going on in the U.S. We have a financial crisis here that is threatening the very fabric of this nation. This is not conspiracy theory, this is something all the financial experts know. It can't be hidden anymore that the U.S. currency is about to be replaced by the Chinese yin in world trade. It is also well known that we are about to get a new currency for pennies on the dollar, which will destroy many peoples lives. This is not conspiracy theory, this is well known. I don't think people in other parts of the world are aware of how seriously bankrupt the U.S. is. And there is only one reason for it. Someone has planned it this way.

Arabella has a good grasp on what is going on. The things she said,are really true. I was living in Florida when George Bush got elected. And you can count on it, there were shennanigans going on.

It is foolish to continue to believe that everything is okay, when we see daily in mainstream newspapers that it is not. Some people in some parts of the world may not be able to see what is happening here. Those here who don't see it, don't want to see it, because deep down inside it scares them too much.

Gene

Gene, my Mother still lives over there and she expresses similar sentiments to yours, and that people are too worried about financially surviving to argue with much of anything. It's a perfect "nutcracker" the government has created there and I can only sigh with relief that I got my kids out of it before now. We have our problems in the UK but having seen the tsunami of mistrust looming in the USA I have to say it has out-foxed itself. It isn't just the "little guys" who have lost out, the government is running a sham and you have to wonder how they get on TV with a straight face and how they can keep all of their duplicitous stories together anymore. It must be depressing to be Obama -- or any of them -- although for some reason they cling to power. Maybe they're afraid that the horror they've created is beyond even their own control.

I agree with you, it's all coming down like a misbegotten mess that it is. And it will take the world with it. And what is coming next is far better and the next stage of growth for humankind -- maturity. It will be interesting and I imagine my children might live to see it. They can tell me about it later!

gene · May 7, 2011

Hi Arabella

As far as getting away with it, these people who run the purse strings of the world do make mistakes, and many of them. Often their own plans backfire on them, and they have to recalculate. That happened with the Nazi regime in world war 2. The Nazis became too powerful and they almost got caught in their own trap. The the soviet union got too powerful with atomic weapons. Now they are caught in another trap. If they let the U.S. fail economically, they will not have their whipping boy to keep China and Russia at bay. Yet I am sure they have plans for this too, but it will backfire. China is becoming more aggressive by the day. And that is one of the tactics of the international bankers and elite. (And aspects of our military) They keep people focused on foreign wars, and create bogus enemies to keep the attention off of what is going on right under their nose.

Then, they are experts at damage control when they get caught lying. Look at how many lies the administration made regarding what happened on 9/11. Look at news stories that got out about planes landing then all of the sudden they didn't. (I think it was flight 11, I forget, that was reported to have landed at Chicago, but couldn't have because it was blown up.) Look at the newstory that appeared 90 minutes before building 7 fell saying that building 7 had fallen. How do they get away with it? They keep people's attention focus on, as you say, day to day survival, and Americans, and maybe all people have very short memories when it comes to these types of situations. Life goes on, they forget, and just figure that somewhere, someone made a mistake, and accept the government story. Those who don't still have freedom of press to protest, but that is being subtly curtailed too, in ways that many people don't think about.

Gene

beyond_the_veil · May 8, 2011

I live in a country that has become overly bureaucratic. I was just talking with a roommate mentioning how a person cannot work for Peace Corps without having a degree. Perhaps I don't know all the details of the matter, but since when do I need to be vetted for wanting to do good works? This country, this "government" is getting stranger and stranger by the moment.

gene · May 8, 2011

Hello Beyond the veil

And if you are from AZ, apparently, then you would be seeing a lot of the strangeness first hand. The Feds and the Arizona government have bucked heads on a number of issues, especially this thing about who has the right to control the borders. That issue alone should be causing Americans alarm because the Federal Government is taking over more and more power and destroying the rights of the states. That was one of the major issues in the founding of this country. By keeping power localized, it made it far more difficult for the international elitists to concentrate power centrally. The former Soviet Union was a test of centralizing power to see how well it worked and how well it could be maintained. When the test was over the S.U. fell. Now they intend to apply the test to the whole world.

Gene

Tohpol · May 8, 2011

gene said:
There appear to be misconceptions about what I am trying to say. First of all, there is nothing in my posts that would indicate it is "all about me." That is completely on the other side of the firewall. It has no bearing.

No misconceptions here Gene. I'm afraid it is wholly about your need to "educate" people regardless of whether people want to be "educated" or not. You're just unable to see it. Why can you not honour peoples' free-will to discover for themselves? Because you are completely invested in changing the minds of the "naive" as you see it. What a misunderstanding of major spiritual principles.

It has been said over and over that it is not what you post but how you beat people over the head with it.

But I won't go on as this post like so many others will be discarded...

gene · May 8, 2011

Topal

Believe what you want to believe. Just as you have no time for my writings, neither do I have time for yours. This is ridicuous beyond belief.

It's okay for you to post informative posts, but not for me. I'm sorry you feel the way you do. Maybe someday you will come to understand some things and see things in a little more mature way. At present I couldn't care less about your attitude toward my posts.

There are some who appreciate my posts, and as long as I am allowed to post I will continue to post things that I think are pertinent.

Gene

Sparhawk · May 8, 2011

beyond_the_veil · May 8, 2011

Gene

I can resonate with your situation, but in the same breath I can understand where Topal is coming from. One thing that I can say about chatting on the internet is that is does not allow for the totality of human comunication to take place: posture, intonation and inflection of word usage. Personally, I find your posts informative and of a wide variety. I remember when I was a young Christian, I was so enthused about my faith and the implied ramifications of this hope (paradigm) that I suffered tunnel vision and it affected how I dealt with people and it pushed them away despite my honest intentions. Please do not take this as an implication of you or your situation because I do not know your heart. I am just sharing my experience.

gene · May 8, 2011

Hi Beyond the veil.

I don't take it personally. Neither do I take anything anyone else says personally. I am human and sometimes I am initially hurt by what a few people say, but I too know where they are coming from and that they mean well. I appreciate Topal and my intention is not to be angry with the person but to show them that as they judge me, so are they being judged.

My posts are sometimes sharp, and they may hurt people. All I ask if for people to look at how sharp THEIR posts are and how hurtful THEY can be. It goes both ways. Usually, my sharp posts are in response to someone who is attacking me without making any real points but just to make fun, which I don't really care about, it is not that I am mad at them for doing so, but to clarify the position. If people do not like my posts they do not have to read them. Topal's post are appreciated but he is not in touch with reality when he says, "It is all about me." In his/her mind I am sure that is so, but it is not really. That is HIS or HER interpretation of the meaning of my posts. He or she is not qualified to assume a certain psychology for me. Nobody here is qualified or truly capable of making any judgments about the nature of my work.

That being said, it is not to belittle the feedback that people give me. But when you give that feedback, if I do not accept it or agree with it, why belabor the point? I don't claim to be perfect, and my way of communicating is not perfect, but is anyone else's?

I love everyone here. I don't mind people making fun of me. And I have tried to be very restrained in responding to it. But there have been numerous times when I have felt like leaving the board because of the constant attacks on me. If someone disagrees with me, why can't they just point if out and show a logical argument against what I am saying. Instead I get things like, "It is all about you." Really? Really? It doesn't even make sense.

I know I don't always communicate in the best way, but it goes both ways. When I make a mistake, or am in some way hostile, I will see it eventually, and I will correct it. But if you are always constantly harping on my psychology when it is not necessary, when I already know the mistakes I am making, well, it just isn't necessary. Do I try to beat people down? I have said before, maybe I make these mistakes, but those who bring up those mistakes often don't see that they are doing exactly the same thing. We are all mirrors of one another.

Gene

gene · May 9, 2011

Arabella

As I look back on this, I see I really, really misunderstood your initial post. And that started off a lot of this. For that I apologize. As a result of my mistake, I felt something needed to be said. And that started this whole thing off. I said things that were reacted to, and I can understand that.

Had the post been the way I originally thought it was, then I might say that my perception of post as meant to be hostile, that was not meant to be hostile, then I simply would have stated what I stated, and people may have read it, and believed it or not, but it simply would have been an informative post.

For anyone it might apply to, What is the point of posting something just making fun of something some one says. If you don't agree, you have two choices, either show nicely what you disagree with, or just let it go and go on. There is no need to have these kind of attacks, from me as well as anyone, to carry on. It is pointless. If people don't agree, just don't agree.

As opposed to some thinking, I am not trying to force anything down anyone's throat. I just post things I consider informative when I hear them. If you don't agree, I have no problem with that. But I have feelings like anyone else. That doesn't give me any right to attack back, but why does there have to be any attack anyway, from anyone. It seems so simple to me. Just read the post or not, and accept it or not. Agree or disagree. It doesn't matter. If someone says nicely, I don't agree with that, I don't care. Some here go out of there way to prove me wrong when they have no basis for it. It's not necessary to try to prove me wrong just because you don't like what I post. You can just say, well, I understand it more this way.

Perhaps part of the problem is that in the past I have said I do not debate. That doesn't mean no one can say anything to me. But most of the stuff I put on here is not speculation. I have done a great deal of research on it, from many different sources. It is highly unlikely anyone is going to come up with an argument I haven't heard before. But if that argument is made nicely, I am perfectly glad to respond to it. And I won't hesitate to admit it if I am wrong. Let's be friends.

Gene

Tohpol · May 9, 2011

gene said:
Topal

Believe what you want to believe. Just as you have no time for my writings, neither do I have time for yours. This is ridicuous beyond belief.

It's okay for you to post informative posts, but not for me. I'm sorry you feel the way you do. Maybe someday you will come to understand some things and see things in a little more mature way. At present I couldn't care less about your attitude toward my posts.

There are some who appreciate my posts, and as long as I am allowed to post I will continue to post things that I think are pertinent.

Gene

*sigh*

By all means do so. But you again constantly (and unsurprisingly at this stage) miss my point.

I REPEAT:

IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU POST. IT IS ABOUT HOW YOU POST IT.

This is why you receive the feedback you do. It's not an attack though it's interesting you perceive it so. It is merely a response to your endless calls for people to wake up when it is not for you to decide who, how or when people wake up or even if they have to! That stems from your commentary not on the content.

I have consistently said I agree with most of what you say. And it is not about whether I like you or don't like you incidentally - that is irrelevant. Just allow the slight possibility that you are not seeing the impression you are giving. I know that possibility in your eyes is slight, but then it always is when one has a blindspot.

Whatever Gene, if you were in the same room I'd give you a hug. Or a slap maybe that would do the trick....lol Just kidding.

beyond_the_veil · May 9, 2011

Seeing that I am "the" newbie here, I hope that I am not being too presumptuous upon the graces of the community concerning what I am about to say, but...the horse is dead, no need to kick it. It is what it is. Please do not construe this as a plea for peace from a sense of self-righteousness; I do not walk on water...but, boy, do I have one heck of a backstroke

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Tohpol · May 10, 2011

beyond_the_veil said:
Seeing that I am "the" newbie here, I hope that I am not being too presumptuous upon the graces of the community concerning what I am about to say, but...the horse is dead, no need to kick it. It is what it is. Please do not construe this as a plea for peace from a sense of self-righteousness; I do not walk on water...but, boy, do I have one heck of a backstroke .

Very nice to have you here btv. The water's quite warm really....

arabella · May 13, 2011

gene said:
Arabella

As I look back on this, I see I really, really misunderstood your initial post. And that started off a lot of this. For that I apologize. As a result of my mistake, I felt something needed to be said. And that started this whole thing off. I said things that were reacted to, and I can understand that.

Had the post been the way I originally thought it was, then I might say that my perception of post as meant to be hostile, that was not meant to be hostile, then I simply would have stated what I stated, and people may have read it, and believed it or not, but it simply would have been an informative post.

For anyone it might apply to, What is the point of posting something just making fun of something some one says. If you don't agree, you have two choices, either show nicely what you disagree with, or just let it go and go on. There is no need to have these kind of attacks, from me as well as anyone, to carry on. It is pointless. If people don't agree, just don't agree.

As opposed to some thinking, I am not trying to force anything down anyone's throat. I just post things I consider informative when I hear them. If you don't agree, I have no problem with that. But I have feelings like anyone else. That doesn't give me any right to attack back, but why does there have to be any attack anyway, from anyone. It seems so simple to me. Just read the post or not, and accept it or not. Agree or disagree. It doesn't matter. If someone says nicely, I don't agree with that, I don't care. Some here go out of there way to prove me wrong when they have no basis for it. It's not necessary to try to prove me wrong just because you don't like what I post. You can just say, well, I understand it more this way.

Perhaps part of the problem is that in the past I have said I do not debate. That doesn't mean no one can say anything to me. But most of the stuff I put on here is not speculation. I have done a great deal of research on it, from many different sources. It is highly unlikely anyone is going to come up with an argument I haven't heard before. But if that argument is made nicely, I am perfectly glad to respond to it. And I won't hesitate to admit it if I am wrong. Let's be friends.

Gene

We are friends -- aren't we?

I think it's quite simple -- just try to steer away from a tone that sounds judgemental, that seems to say, "agree with me or you are dumb."

It's not a unique issue on the internet. It happens. It happens sometimes because people are really concerned or worried that they are being taken seriously, and trying to drive a point home and without the benefits of body language and facial expression and tone of voice, they may come across as too strong. And that seems to happen with some of your posts. But don't worry. You are among friends who are just saying how it sounds to them. There is no "right" or "wrong" to the question. It's just how your questions are perceived and your choice how to address that.

Everybody on this board is different -- and special -- and so are you :hug:

Arabella

carral · Jun 28, 2011

bamboo said:

haha i like the thought of them speaking like that

its like the brooklyn squirrels in the far side who all talk like Woody Allen haha!

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