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It is really amazing to come across you guys. The I Ching has been a rather solitary occupation for me up to now. I have been reading and trying to fathom it since 1975. Actually I don't consult it very often now because I have binged on it in the past using it as a crutch (addictive personality) and I figure I should be able to work things out for myself. I have been reading parts of this great site over the past few days since I signed up and it is so interesting to see other people using it, a novelty for me. It gives great perspective.
I did consult this week for a big decision (buying a flat at auction) and received H14 L2,4,5,6. I was therfore grateful to read all about how to deal with multiple moving lines. Anyway, my divination seems very auspicious but is there anything I might have missed?
Just for the record, the Zhu Xi method has been discussed several times in the Exploring Divination section. There is a link I have posted before to Steve Marshall's site where it is described and is part of Adler's translation. Look for "How to interpret changing lines" down the page.
Is it?
Sounds like you've found your level. The surface.
People have been arguing about how to interpret this book for thousands of years, and it would be nice if they took the fight out to the alley.
In general, it is probably better not to consult the I Ching, as it is always possible, even likely, that you will misinterpret it.
But to say that an interpretation can be both correct and incorrect is meaningless. An interpretation can be correct, or incorrect. There are no grey areas here.
As it was, I was making no claims for my interpretation being correct, I was merely sharing how this particular oracle would be interpreted if one wished to use this method, since its outcome was rather different to the more rosy picture painted on the basis of the foreground points of change.
It would also be nice if certain people did not try and cloud the issue by trying to introduce "exotic' methods of interpretation. As it does nothing at all to advance the knowledge of newcomers and ordinary students of the IC. This has been done in the past but only led to confusion, wrong lines being taken into account, and people giving all sorts of wrong interpretations because they started placing emphasis on the wrong things or even imaginary things.
Beginners love shortcuts and when a person introduces an exotic shortcut, they jump on it, thinking it will always give them instant and 100% correct answers without the leg work. Wrong. So, when it doesn't work out, they give up in disgust. Learning is hard work, there are no shortcuts as suggested by the other poster.
Is that okay with everyone?
No. I don't post here because of you but I still want to read other peoples comments as well as yours so why don't you shut up and let other people post their views as you expect others to shut up and let you do your thing.
You are in no position to critisize others interpretations.
The point is if you want to be left alone don't try to interfere with others offering their perspective too.
look at this load of ****http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=8129... wonder if shes still waiting...well you have a 50/50 chance of being correct i guess..
Well, some people may prefer to listen to an old Chinese guy. Or they may prefer to listen to you, with your snappy mouth and all the wisdom of the ages just ooozing out of you.
What is it you want here? Would you prefer me not to post my interpretation, is that it? If it is not that, what are you going on about?
I have merely presented an interpretation according to a method that many who have studied the I Ching over the past thousand years regard as the standard method. It is interesting to see the disgruntlement it causes. The kind of deliberate limitation of knowledge that Willowfox and Bamboo are espousing just leads to this rather surly and arrogant type of western I Ching student we see personified here.
I thought you would be back again, straight into attack mode as per usual, just because you hate me there is no need to embarrass yourself by showing how jealous you are.
I have every right in the world to criticize who I like, are you now a forum COP? They criticize me and I them, so up yours crabby!
And really, who do you think you are, telling me to shut up? Stop humiliating yourself and find something constructive to say.
What the **** would i have to be jealous about
I'm telling you to shut up trying to limit others interpretations. You have in the last couple of years deterred a fair few people from even bothering to post here. Why can't you just be content with your fortune telling and keep your nose out of trying to limit others postings. This place doesn't belong to you though it sure does appear to
I don't hate you i feel sorry for you but unlike some dimwits here I don't think feeling sorry for an individual means its okay to sit and watch them colonise an entire area of the forum and further not be content with that but then try to actually limit what other more knowlegable people may have to say.
See your pattern is predictable. You demand absolute freedom to insult others but if the same is returned you go ballistic...
So you've seen the sense of dodging the bullet at last. There is hope for you yet. It is wisdom to know when you don't stand a chance.
Here we go again, same old crab on the attack as per usual, if its not my interpretation then its always something else to get your knickers in a twist about. Forever trying to limit my freedom of speech by making complaints to the management in order to get me banned, yes I know what you have been doing behind the scenes.
Now the FORUM COP is going ballistic with her neverending attempts to get me banned, always, always finding fault with me, always, always looking for some dirt to throw at me.
Do you consider yourself the more knowledgeable person here? If you do then why don't you have something constructive to say instead of always attacking me?
Of course you hate me and you are obviously jealous as well, just review your attacks upon me over the past couple of years.
Edited to add: That you have teamed up with twitlight, to launch your new round of attacks not only against me but bamboo as well. How many more people do you want to upset?
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).