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Hi, Innertruth:what do you think about Hexagram 2. If the open question is about Loves or Not? 2 Unchanging
Again so many meanings: Passiveness, openness to initiative, or maybe not wanting to change status-quo?
Willingness to follow whatever initiative comes along? or just Situation is as it is before you?
Confusing.
The name of H.2 KUN, means usually EARTH / FEMALE PRINCIPLE / FEMALE ENERGY, another meanings could be OPENNESS, OPENHEARTED, OPENMINDED which are related with RECEPTIVITY.I will try being open, or detached. It is hard. Almost everytime my initial thought about the whole situation
affects it....
what do you think about Hexagram 2. If the open question is about Loves or Not? 2 Unchanging
Again so many meanings: Passiveness, openness to initiative, or maybe not wanting to change status-quo?
Willingness to follow whatever initiative comes along? or just Situation is as it is before you?
Confusing.
Yes, but not all. It's also a question of compatibility. A horse has it's own character, part inbred and part learned and developed. The same is true for a rider.SO IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE RIDER really like you said Sooo....
Hmmm.....
Horses are frequently given names such as Thunder and Lightening. One boarded horse here was named by an Indian woman after her tribe - Chactaw.The beginning of all things lies still in the beyond in the form of ideas that have yet to become real. But the Creative furthermore has power to lend form to these archetypes of ideas.
Sorry to intrude on your lesson, but this is driving me mad
I'm not sure about your mare of hexagram 2. But mine is not to be kept in a stable. The wide, open fields, is where she roams free, and likes to be. There will be no reigns, she is not to be trained.
However, I would imagine a " lead" mare or a "boss" mare. Only because I see hexagram 2 speaking of the mare 1. In its natural form, not in closed quarters and trained. And 2. Since it is speaking specifically of the mare. Then also of the earth, as well as following the signs, as guidance, and she sets out to work. Sounds like a "lead" or a "boss" mare.
Furthering through the perseverance of a mare.
If the superior man undertakes something and tries to lead,
He goes astray;
But if he follows, he finds guidance.
It is favorable to find friends in the west and south,
To forego friends in the east and north.
Quiet perseverance brings good fortune.
Hmmm, yes, perhaps I do not understand what it is you are saying about love and hex 2, according to Inner truth's question.
You say your comparative example is hex 11, yet no longer the "romantic" type. Yet your creative description sounds quite romantic to my own mind. My only question then is, if heaven is male, and voluntarily places himself beneath earth, which is to be female. What are they taking turns in leading here? How can he lead if he's now beneath her? But thats neither here or there. That's where my own mind says, balance in metaphor. Less leading, less following. More receptivity, magnetism, as partners. Can not be one, without the other. At least for hex 2. But this... "earth doesn't fly over heaven in hex 11" almost had me falling off my chair, I laughed so hard. Pegasus? I don't know why you seem defensive? Most things we say are similar and in agreement. Just different forms of expression perhaps. Maybe not?
To discuss further, there are so many times the question comes up "who is this superior man I am to follow?" "How will I know?" And the answer more commonly agreed on, is "The superior man, is not man at all, it is your higher guidance or intuition if you will." The gift and power to follow the signs of heaven's will. Or for those of nature, nature's will.
I do not think this is just any mare than. This is earth. This is a strong, whole, healthy female presence. Female because she has the qualities to nurture, care, love. Strong because she is able to read the signs, she is receptive to the signs of heaven or nature, in order to "carry all the beings" (lead her horses to water).
Even science has many studies on why females choose certain men over others. A whole, healthy, female, in her natural element. Whether animal or human, is shown to pick the stronger of the breed. She does this naturally, subconsciously, even. She does this to keep the strong genes and carry on, progress the species.
So Candy as you say places herself in front of just any male. I wonder what Candy would do if she was in her natural element. Not trained by man. As grandma always says "man will lead you astray" as mom always says "trust no man". For me its too much black and white thinking. But good intentions maybe, to lead the females in the family to be strong and trust their inner guidance. Also perhaps the ultimate goal is to continue the species. So if Candy is not in her natural element, and she is not finding much choice available, perhaps she then just chooses to procreate anyway, to at least give the species its only chance of survival. As a horse in a stable, she has little to no control over what she is meant to do naturally.
There are other studies on this. A place in China still alive today. Although it may be absurd to most, the female, once she reaches maturity, or puberty. There is a celebration. They have a dance, the female chooses her male. There must be some trust in the natural process and a loosening of the reigns then. That the female indeed is capable of picking the stronger breed and even strong enough to say... Work a full time job, attend college, take the kids to soccer, and cook a healthy meal for the entire family. A working horse indeed but also a strong and yet caring, receptive working horse. But she is also leading her family, although in a healthy marriage and family she is a co-leader. But that is, I feel going further into another area. Unless you want to consider hexagram 1 and hexagram 2, heaven and earth as partners, working together. Which at times, a man will receive hexagram 2. So what's he being told to do? Same thing I feel. There's a balance there to be made in the middle. Be receptive, follow. Yet be strong, and ready to lead. And because it is Chinese symbols it has room to go in either direction to better suit the times or any given situation. It must be, I feel sorted out delicately or and wisely.
Further back to that study, it is believed the female picks the stronger gene when she has the option to choose because she has one egg to fertilize. One time a month to ovulate. She has one chance to get it right. Where as the man has many, many, many, seeds available. So heaven man. Female earth. Strong male. Strong female. Both must work together. I see now how hexagram 2 can be a "love" hexagram.
For me the understanding then, is not that she will follow just any initiative. She follows that which is right to and for nature. Of course she does not lead. She is following the signs of heaven or nature. She is receptive to heaven or nature. But she is carrying all the beings and is working to lead herself and them to what will better the species. Whether its mare, human, or any other animal of your choice. That is my own understanding of hexagram 2. And why Isee it as a lead mare more so than just any mare. If we are to be talking of earth. Earth is just one. One to carry all the beings and nurture willingly. Of course by heavens guidance. Perhaps its not what they meant when writing the text of Hexagram 2. Perhaps it is. Perhaps its an open field for interpretation.
Could they have had in mind the rider of the mare, or the father as you've witnessed of the mare. Maybe. Maybe not.
Further back to that study, it is believed the female picks the stronger gene when she has the option to choose because she has one egg to fertilize. One time a month to ovulate. She has one chance to get it right. Where as the man has many, many, many, seeds available.
Hi, Chris:Thanks for interesting takes on 2.
Two is unassuming I guess, It's main idea is to FOLLOW whatever will come.
But it is receptive at the same time....So Guess it would mean that the person concerned
is open to initiative and will follow you *querent - but would not lead. Because 2 cannot
be a leader! It only provides space for initiative......
:bag: SO IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE RIDER really like you said Sooo....
Hmmm.....
Hi, María:In most discussions about hex 2, when the word " submissive" appears , most of the time objections follows . To me, 2 is yelding, submissive, and it's not negative at all.
In most discussions about hex 2, when the word " submissive" appears , most of the time objections follows . To me, 2 is yelding, submissive, and it's not negative at all.
noun
noun: deference
humble submission and respect.
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