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Every interaction with people has potential but you don't know if it will last untill you get to know them better. In 33 you keep the inferior man at a distance, not angrily but with reserve.Wing:
The times are such that a group of people all shares the same needs. They can come together openly with the same goals in mind. This is the beginning of a fellowship. Until the interests of the individuals become divergent all will go well.
Do you see some defensiveness in you approach? If you could be clear with yourself about your boundaries without being agressive, others will respect them willingly? The structure of a house is built from different elements that can't be replaced, so everyone does its job related to its nature. But separated they are of no use. Perhaps Yi calls you to be more self accepting of your singularity and to join others with confidence?Wilhelm/Baynes:
He climbs up on his wall; he cannot attack. Good fortune.
Yi advices you to find clarity inside of you about your needs first and to make them known? By being open you show who you are, and you make sure that your relationships are genuine and built on a sincere and solid base.Wing:
The difficulties and obstacles within the situation cause you much sorrow. If you openly express your distress you will find that you generate similar expressions from your fellow man. Together you can overcome the difficult time and there will be much joy in your newfound unity.
Hi Cometta, thank you for your insights and questions.Hi Lightafterdarkness,
Was there ever a potential for something long term?
I think the answer is yes, if you would have thought about what makes you defensive, shared it then let it go.
Hex 13 is about being with kindered spirits, so Yi tells you that the potential is there if you choose who to be with.
Hex 52 is about being immovable, the mountain is seen but inaffected, the man in 52 goes into his courtyard and does not see his people.
I see it as an invitation to turn inside and find what makes you still and unshakable, what stays when the elements affects you.
13.1<>33
Every interaction with people has potential but you don't know if it will last untill you get to know them better. In 33 you keep the inferior man at a distance, not angrily but with reserve.
13.4<>37
Do you see some defensiveness in you approach? If you could be clear with yourself about your boundaries without being agressive, others will respect them willingly? The structure of a house is built from different elements that can't be replaced, so everyone does its job related to its nature. But separated they are of no use. Perhaps Yi calls you to be more self accepting of your singularity and to join others with confidence?
13.5<>30
Yi advices you to find clarity inside of you about your needs first and to make them known? By being open you show who you are, and you make sure that your relationships are genuine and built on a sincere and solid base.
Could you perhaps be hiding some aspects of you that you judge inappropriate or fragile and this harsh judgement about yourself makes you defensive? By opening up more you allow yourself to be loved fully and for who you are, and you have no doubts or regrets about what goes away.
I wish you happy and lasting loves.
Hi Cometta, first; thanks once again for your valuable input.There is mourning in both 13.5 and its fan yao 30.5. It describes big differences between people. If we want fellowship with mankind we are invited to look beyond these differences and find what is common in humans. Sometimes there is no common ground and people grow apart.
As you said it is not about stating your needs and expecting them to be fullfilled but more in the sense of opening up with humility and accepting that the other one is different and vulnerable too. She lacks experience from your point of view but from hers she is doing her possible to compensate for what she may felt as a mistake in her past experiences.
She perhaps understood that there is still work to be done. It is not easy either to love someone who lacks trust and self worth and not easy to love truely when one lacks trust.
Perhaps if you were less focused on guilt and hurt and more on the love you have she could have felt more encouraged to find a common ground. The same applies to you.
The advice you received is to stop thinking too much and let go of struggle. You could have had more chances if you were focused on what unites you and more tolerating of what separates you. You actually showed appreciation for the sincerity in your exchange after the breakup because you both allowed yourselves to be vulnerable.
Yi gave you the overall picture of how this relationship could have had potential but first thing try to quit your mind and find a peaceful and floating place, thinking only bring more thoughts.
Wish you all the best
P.s: I am really sorry for my awful english.
Your first reading was about you!Hex 54 now this hex is about a younger woman marrying an older man which is good here, so it suggests a future together, but this hex also advises you to put a lot of effort and attention into this to make sure that you succeed, and you can if you are prepared to work the problem through.
I'm trying to put the pieces together of Hex 54.1.2.4 but the original question, you and rosada I believe both referred to the reading as being about my ex.Your first reading was about you!
Willowfox has summed up both your questions very well.
Interesting, Rosada! I feel like my ex partner and I had somewhat of a karmic connection. We both triggered some shadows in each other and what came exposed gave us deeper insight into ourselves as a result. However, this was because we had some similarities but were polar opposites in others. So the different tribe thing rings a bell. In some ways it was like we were from the same land but different tribe and had conflicting differences. A fellowship, but returning to my own roots and moving on.A brief thought about the original question -
Was there ever a potential for something long term?
13. Fellowship with men in the wild (Wilhelm).
52. Keeping Still.
Just looking at these hexagrams to answer your specific question (without also trying to get insight as to why) it seems the I Ching is advising you that there were indeed limits to the friendship potential here. 13.5 suggests you could have some great conversations but 52 says this is as far as it goes. So friendship but not soulmates. Don’t beat yourself up thinking things could have been different!
Someone once posted what I think is a very useful insight about 13 - it is about fellowship with people in the wild, that is, people who are outside one’s usual circle and very different from one’s own tribe, and the emphasis is on learning to relate to people from all different points a view but it’s not a hexagram about putting down roots. Indeed the last line, 13.6, is about being able to make friends and move on.
Also Rosada, did you mean line 6 or was this a typo? There's no line 6 in my reading. Not sure if I misunderstood how this applied to the reading!A brief thought about the original question -
Was there ever a potential for something long term?
13. Fellowship with men in the wild (Wilhelm).
52. Keeping Still.
Just looking at these hexagrams to answer your specific question (without also trying to get insight as to why) it seems the I Ching is advising you that there were indeed limits to the friendship potential here. 13.5 suggests you could have some great conversations but 52 says this is as far as it goes. So friendship but not soulmates. Don’t beat yourself up thinking things could have been different!
Someone once posted what I think is a very useful insight about 13 - it is about fellowship with people in the wild, that is, people who are outside one’s usual circle and very different from one’s own tribe, and the emphasis is on learning to relate to people from all different points a view but it’s not a hexagram about putting down roots. Indeed the last line, 13.6, is about being able to make friends and move on.
Hi Rosada, thanks for your explanation!I referenced line 6 because I think sometimes it’s worth looking at the surrounding lines to get a clearer understanding of the meaning of the line you actually got. For example, in this reading you got line 5 which says “Men bound in fellowship first weep and lament, but afterwards they laugh. After great struggles they succeed in meeting.” From this one might assume “Oh this is wonderful. Surely this means the relationship could grow to commitment and living happily ever after!” But if we look at where the 13. energy grows to from there it doesn’t point to commitment but rather 13.6 says “Fellowship with men in the meadow. No remorse, “ meaning that when one has learned how to make friends with Men in The Wild it doesn’t necessarily lead to romance but it does suggest that once we’ve mastered being able to make friends then from there we are able to make friends where ever we go, whatever meadow we wander into and although the relationships aren’t as intense as one might want from a lifetime partner, still there is “no remorse”.
Interesting too 13.5 leads to hexagram 13. Suggesting having the ability to make friends is indeed a wonderful gift, a Possession in Great measure.
Anyway, reading all the lines to understand a single one better can involve some tricky mental gymnastics, and not everyone enjoys this approach.
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