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CHANCE ENCOUNTER. THE GIRL IS TOUGH. DO NOT TAKE HER HOME. Chance encounter means to meet. The gentle meets the strong. Do not take the woman because it won't last long. Heaven and Earth meet, all things prosper. The tough gets the correct center all under heaven prevails. Great indeed is the timing and rectitude of chance encounter.
what's the difference between a bitch and a slut? A slut sleeps with every body while the bitch sleeps with everyone but you.
I wish every time I got this hex that it only signified something like a big old gentle rottweiler looking for some sweet affection, but it's not my experience. would you say a wuff-ing persistent cocker spaniel is a 44? probably not, right?
Well obviously women can be productive, creative, independent. They can
be strong, and need to be tough in order to raise a family, or in order to
make it in working environments too, and out there in the society as well.
All this activity applies to the majority of women at least in the western
world.
However, there are more than plenty of hexagrams and lines to show just
that. 42, 19, 15, 37, 1, etc. I personally have many times received lines
which advise "go your own way", "accomplish great deeds", "use strict
punishment", "lead the way to catch game in the field", and so on etc etc.
Far too many to mention all. And yet i am female. What then is the purpose
of 44? Why not, when asking about something where the action will be
positive, why not receive one of the countless hexagrams and lines which
actually show that taking up action is favourable?
I'm not so sure about 44 in this sense then. Because being a female, then
i should be receiving 44 every time i'd like to take up some independent
action and go after a goal...? Which is just not my experience.
And to add one more thing - i have received 44 in the past and it turned
out it was referring to a man approaching me, with low intentions. I had
the warning in my mind, and just observed to see what will happen, and
indeed it proved that the said men (has happened more than once) did
not have my best interests in mind - and although a couple of the cases
were of a 'romantic' nature, another couple of occasions were of a totally
professional nature. So i believe that when 44 speaks of the 'feminine',
that could well be the 'dark element', something inferior - and this of
course could take very many meanings in practice.
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Hexagram 44 may speak of human beings encountering situations where the attractive forces or magnetic forces are stronger than we are. The purpose of hexagram 44 may be to warn us or inform us that this is so.
Isn't the foetus in the womb the premiere "infiltrating element"? Many of the earliest ideograms of #44 showed no woman at all, by the way, just the infant with little drops around its head that were said to be drops of amniotic fluid. I came into this world as an "infiltrating element" from inside the body of my mother.
Who is really caught in the electro-magnetic trap? All of us. The downside is the fear of being taken over, the wish to cling carried to an extreme, worse than being used and using, relentless yearning, actual loss of control without knowing why, as if the will were being sucked right out of your body by unseen forces . . . or a vampire! Everybody always loves vampire stories!
And yet it is said that there is no circumstance that the Superior Man, with the help of heaven, cannot turn to advantage and also use to benefit everyone else. That jumpstart example, by removing the overly subjective element, made hexagram 44 much clearer, at least for me. These forces are not as personal -- nor as sinister -- as we may think they are. I think an experience thread about hex 44 and other difficult hexagrams would be really useful. :bows::bows::bows:
... These forces are not as personal -- nor as sinister -- as we may think they are. I think an experience thread about hex 44 and other difficult hexagrams would be really useful...
...I like to translate GOU NU ZHUANG ... :
F_U_C_K !__G_I_R_L_S__A_R_E__P_O_ W_ E_ R_F_U_L ...
Trojan:So Charly you are assuming F U C K ! was used as an expletive in ancient China in exactly the same sense as we use it now ? I think it a bit of a stretch to be honest though not knowing Chinese I can't be sure. Language changes significantly even within a 100 years..thats even within one language, and you're saying even with a different language and the vast stretch of time passed the ancient Chinese said "F U C K ! its hot" or "F U C K ! its a powerful girl"...in the way we do... it doesn't seem likley to me Charly, we didn't even say that a few hundred years ago...used other words
When I looked at a few of the letters my wife had signed, I noticed that she had added "Happy" on one side of the cow and "Year" on the other side of the cow. I thought that was extremely clever, because she was using the cow as a cross-lingual pun: "Happy 牛 Year!" Upon being read out as "Happy NIU2 Year," any speaker of English will immediately understand the greeting. And, this being the Chinese "Year of the NIU2," which was why I put that animal at the bottom of our New Year's message in the first place, Liqing's formulation is particularly fitting for the beginning of 2009.
From Victor Mair at: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?author=13
Trojan:
I'm force to recognize that you have all the reason, little chinese I know and little know the experts about the Zhou times chinese, it's very easy to be mistaken (2), but, I believe, not worse than follow the old accepted prejudices.
Little I've learned from books, much more I"ve learned from women.
Have you a "Happy 牛 Year!" (3)
Yours,
Charly
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(3) 牛niu2: ox / oxen → 2009 year of the ox
I know what you are saying about prejudices but I fear in your eagerness to get away from the prejudice you lose a great chunk of meaning. I accept there will be prejudice there but I think we have to dig our way around it to get to the truth rather than plaster a whole new 21st century politically correct ideology over it like wallpaper...
BTW I get confused because although you seem to promote the whole powerful woman thing you mainly refer to women as objects in your interpetations ...like for 50.1 (in memorising thread) about the upturned Ting you linked to a girl making a 'erotic' gesture of adjusting her sandal strap...
Happy New Year from Metal Rat
, do you see some hope for me?
I have to laugh. You know, this is a very heavyweight thread. Never mind. I've had this pernicious cold for over a week and am taking it out on this thread. Ordinarily, I aspire to a more graceful way of expression. I'm too old to be writing treatises involving Zeus, the American Rottweiler, and vampires. "Zeus and the Vampires" sounds like a very bad rock band.
Can't we just ward off wrongdoers without having to blame them and accuse them of having evil intentions? Wrongdoers usually do not have evil intentions. They just have a way of justifying anything they do. Many people who overpower others with their animal magnetism are not even aware of their own power and therefore never learned to control it.
By the way, the reason a man might not want to marry a strong woman was because, I think, at some point she could be expected to begin challenging her husband openly, "hen pecking" him. That dynamic would have been seen in ancient China as an unfortunate balance of forces within the family. The women and children were not to titter among themselves about the father's peculiarities, and so forth. They did not live with daily social chaos the way we do today. The rules pertaining to the various roles were very clearly understood by everybody. The type of woman seen as making the best wife was the submissive type. [Guess that would have left me out. ]
[I wish I could figure out how people are doing quotes. So far I don't see how they're doing that.]
[I don't like my name. I wish I had chosen a different name. Have the feeling it's too late, and I'm stuck with it. ]
[I think I might qualify as an actual hermit by now. I personally know two genuine hermits. Doesn't that fact in itself indicate something about me? But a hermit has to overcome that condition, I think, and come down from the mountain top. I'm thinking of sending my photo in to Clarity . . . maybe.]
Trojan:
Maybe it´s my obsession but also was the obsession of chinese kings, nobles, rulers, officials and low people during centuries and centuries. Why could not it also affect the YI writers?
All under the sky have place in the YI, even rodents and horses, even you and me.
Don´t get upset with me (people use to do), I´m not wishing to offend anybody.
Yours,
Charly
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P.D.: First time that I was called politically correct. I´m not a feminist although some friends of mine she are. I´m a little conservative, I prefer the word sex instead of the word genre. I like women, children, animals, plants even, sometimes, men. Do you see some hope for me?
Clarity,
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