15.1 > 36 Should I move or should I stay? + 41.2.5 > 42

[mechitiz]

Dear community, I am new here but I have been searching for your thoughts and reading previous answers for years now. So thank you already!
I have decided to join you and directly ask help clarifying this last answer I received, I am having troubles understanding it intuitively - as it has always happened before -, but this time is different.

Circumstances: I am living in shared house with people I am not feeling comfortable with. It is the first time it happens. Jealousy and Envy of this person in particular act on me, I cannot seem to not be affected: I feel suffocating, neglecting my creativity (this person literally shushes me and my performative work), living in discomfort, trying not to spend time at home therefore not cultivating my needs and not being able to feel safe and relaxed. I had an offer to move to another apartment with a great person, but it is more expensive and it is not a happy economic period, and also I have pending a request to study abroad for some months starting from next year. Does it make sense to move now? And anyway the city itself where I live is a place I should live in for a while, carrier speaking, at least giving to it a try which I haven't yet, but it is chaotic, dispersive therefore lonely, expensive, exhausting. I'd like to have independence, easy ways to cultivate connections (friends, a pet), time for my work. Here it seems impossible.
Sometimes I feel I can wait a little bit more and move when the studies begin (apartment). Change city then when my carrier is a bit more solid and I could work from other places too (city).
Sometimes I feel the everyday life in this apartment (but city too) are actually destroying my person and my gifts.

I did the error to ask in the question for both uncertainties: should I stay or should I leave the city? Should I stay or should I leave the apartment?
I got 15.1 > 36

I'd like some help here, I thank you in advance.

 

[rosada]

Stay where you are for the time being. Make yourself as invisible as possible.
Perhaps you would get value asking what you should be intending to do next? Like what should you be watching and waiting for? How will you know when it really is time to move out? Or maybe just keep looking for a new place now that is more closely suited to your needs than the expensive apartment.

 

[Liselle]

'Humble, humble, the noble one
Makes use of crossing the great river.
Good fortune.'

It advises crossing the river, but it's in hexagram 15 so it should be done in a realistic way that makes good sense. Leaving just in order to escape, but then having other problems, probably doesn't.

Fingers crossed that something perfect shows up.

 

[Trojina]

I did the error to ask in the question for both uncertainties: should I stay or should I leave the city? Should I stay or should I leave the apartment?
I got 15.1 > 36

Hard to see an answer that says this

'Humble, humble, the noble one
Makes use of crossing the great river.
Good fortune.'

...as advice to stay where you are. It's suggesting utilising, in a practical, realistic way. the opportunities that will make moving possible. I think it is a clear answer that is a good idea to move.

Crossing a river is a big thing in Yi, it's a big transition away from what darkens your light (36) and so you work hard to make that crossing and there is 'good fortune'.

 

[mechitiz]

Thank you so much for your answers. It's helping me.
I got a (friendly, reasonable) ultimatum from the other place and therefore I've asked specifically regarding the apartment.
This is what I got:

41.2.5 > 42

 

[mechitiz]

Hard to see an answer that says this

'Humble, humble, the noble one
Makes use of crossing the great river.
Good fortune.'

...as advice to stay where you are. It's suggesting utilising, in a practical, realistic way. the opportunities that will make moving possible. I think it is a clear answer that is a good idea to move.

Crossing a river is a big thing in Yi, it's a big transition away from what darkens your light (36) and so you work hard to make that crossing and there is 'good fortune'.

"it's a big transition away from what darkens your light (36)" is what is really needed. Also because my work inevitably is meant for others, and keeping it shushed is hurting me but many too, it's a community-humanity thing.

I asked again regarding the apartment, not to have the "city" thing compromising the answer.
I got 41.2.5 > 42

I am more confused than before!
What do you think? Should I stay and diminish, dedicate my energies to the open call (studies) and then good fortune will come? Or is more, an opportunity is here, follow it, move now and better things will arrive.

41.2 - "Consider whether sacrifice for another diminishes your dignity or compromises your principles. The situation allows you to hold to your integrity while still giving to another. Sharing with others brings real fulfillment".
41.5 - "Because of your steadfast integrity, the way opens and great fortune rewards your Inner Truth. This is a very auspicious line showing that the work you have done to be honest and generous to others will be rewarded. A time of good fortune is emerging after testing."

(Thanks everyone, by the way!)

 

[Liselle]

What exactly was your question? (Sometimes the wording matters for interpretation.)

If it was something like "Shall I move to this other apartment?," I think 41.2 says no. "Setting out to bring order" - setting out to fix things - is "pitfall."

"Not decreasing, increasing it" - you might think not moving there will decrease you, but it'll actually increase you.

But 41.5 is also in the reading. The only thing that comes to mind immediately is that 41.5 is about unanimity, everything being in agreement, and from what you said before you don't have that in your own mind. You have doubts, and reasons not to.

Maybe it's as simple as that: setting out to fix things by moving there would be a pitfall, and keep in mind you're not entirely convinced it's a good idea.

Whose commentary did you quote? We always like to know.

 

[mechitiz]

What exactly was your question? (Sometimes the wording matters for interpretation.)

If it was something like "Shall I move to this other apartment?," I think 41.2 says no. "Setting out to bring order" - setting out to fix things - is "pitfall."

"Not decreasing, increasing it" - you might think not moving there will decrease you, but it'll actually increase you.

But 41.5 is also in the reading. The only thing that comes to mind immediately is that 41.5 is about unanimity, everything being in agreement, and from what you said before you don't have that in your own mind. You have doubts, and reasons not to.

Maybe it's as simple as that: setting out to fix things by moving there would be a pitfall, and keep in mind you're not entirely convinced it's a good idea.

Whose commentary did you quote? We always like to know.

https://www.cafeausoul.com is the site. I really like how it paints the emotional and philosophical landscape. Anyway I always first read the Wilhelm interpretation.

I have doubts. Because neither of the two houses is the best solution. I have to understand the better one at least for this moment of my life. I am afraid it will cost me to move there, but at the same time is living here that is bearing on me.

 

[Liselle]

What if you'd be trading one set of problems for another, though?

What was your question for the 41.2.5 reading? I'd like to make sure I didn't get the angle wrong.

also I have pending a request to study abroad for some months starting from next year.

When next year? Could that make a difference? A couple of months from now might be different from if it's farther into 2023.

 

[mechitiz]

What if you'd be trading one set of problems for another, though?

What was your question for the 41.2.5 reading? I'd like to make sure I didn't get the angle wrong.


When next year? Could that make a difference? A couple of months from now might be different from if it's farther into 2023.

I asked "Should I move or should I wait?"
"What if you'd be trading one set of problems for another, though?" it can definitively be. I have to understand which ones are more bearable for my person in this moment. And that's what I am thinking about.

I have found also this interpretation on this very site:
41.2
Harvest: determination. To set things right: pitfall. Not diminishing, increasing it.
Get rid of preconceptions, of all 'knowing how things are'. If one expects a miracle, the miracle might actually happen. Even better than expecting it is innocently making it happen oneself, free of any doubt. Believing it is summoning it.
41.5
Someone's increase. Ten pairs of tortoise and nothing is able to contradict it. Eminent auspiciousness.
The art of increasing another is one of the greatest causes of happiness and good fortune there are. Let go of any fear of decreasing yourself or of being decreased, and you will share together all good things there can be among two people.

 

[Liselle]

I wouldn't take "miracle" too literally. That's LiSe's commentary, and she's writing poetically. You have to kind of see her point without being too literal. Which you might not be in the first place.

Do browse LiSe's site, though. Tons of excellent stuff there.

LiSe YiJing

www.yijing.nl

 

[mechitiz]

I wouldn't take "miracle" too literally. That's LiSe's commentary, and she's writing poetically. You have to kind of see her point without being too literal. Which you might not be in the first place.

Do browse LiSe's site, though. Tons of excellent stuff there.

LiSe YiJing

www.yijing.nl

Thank you so much! I didn't know it.

Anyway I stepped back. I am collecting, ordering, working from the place I am and trying to set the path for the future changes - working to make it happen. Inspired also by the first result - modesty and searching for inner clarity, even if the light is obscured right now. It is of course a good idea to move but only in a realistic possible way; so that's what I'll be doing in the next weeks. No rush, no ego's temper tantrums, just honest, low profile, steadfast work.

Thank you so much for everything!