24 - What influence has our conversation last week had on X?

[POS256]

Hell
My husband has broken the relationship of 10 years in Januar
Last week I told him that I wanted to try to be together again and he told me that he was not in love with m
I consulted the I Ching how our conversation had influenced it and obtained 24 - the return (unchangeable
Please, how can I interpret i
- a turn of the perso
- the turning point and no return.
Thank you!

 

[POS256]

Hello!
My husband has broken the relationship of 10 years in January.
Last week I told him that I wanted to try to be together again and he told me that he was not in love with me.
I consulted the I Ching as to what hope I can have of being a couple again and I obtained 39 (the impediment) with the mutant line 4 that tends to 31 (the influence).
Please, can you help me with the interpretation?
Thank you!

 

[POS256]

Hello!
The question is in reference to a long-distance relationship.
The I Ching has been consulted with the question in the heading (When will all the problems that separate us and prevent us from living as a normal couple end?) and hexagram 41 (the loss) has been obtained without mutations.
The doubt here is in the interpretation:
- Is it referring to the reduction of problems so that there would be a rapprochement and that type of problem would end?
- Or is there a general decline in the relationship and everything is getting worse?
It is not very clear what option one would expect. Also, it is not clear the concept of the time here.
Can you help us please?
Thank you!

 

[rosada]

The Image often describes the key lesson to be learned from the hexagram experience. The image for 41 states “The superior man controls his anger and restrains his instincts.” This suggests to me that your situation will improve as you develop your ability to control your instinctive desire for things to be different - that is, hold back from reacting negatively. There is a saying, “No situation is bad or good - only thinking makes it so.” Practice finding the benefit in your current circumstances - like while you are unable to be together as much as you’d wish, perhaps the separation makes the time you do have together so much more precious. Or perhaps there are things you promised yourself you’d do - like learning to play a musical instrument or exercising - things that just wouldn’t be possible if he were around all the time.
You may find that as you Decrease your longing for things to be different they actually do start to change and improve.
I hope so!
R

 

[POS256]

The Image often describes the key lesson to be learned from the hexagram experience. The image for 41 states “The superior man controls his anger and restrains his instincts.” This suggests to me that your situation will improve as you develop your ability to control your instinctive desire for things to be different - that is, hold back from reacting negatively. There is a saying, “No situation is bad or good - only thinking makes it so.” Practice finding the benefit in your current circumstances - like while you are unable to be together as much as you’d wish, perhaps the separation makes the time you do have together so much more precious. Or perhaps there are things you promised yourself you’d do - like learning to play a musical instrument or exercising - things that just wouldn’t be possible if he were around all the time.
You may find that as you Decrease your longing for things to be different they actually do start to change and improve.
I hope so!

Thank you Rosada for your reply!

 

[my_key]

Hi POS256
Receiving 24 carries a sense of a limit having been reached. The trade routes and and means of communication and interaction need to remain closed for the immediate future before any chance of return.
Return relies on an ebb and flow of nurturing and nourishing energy to allow a new path to flourish. If this is allowed to happen naturally, and the obstacles lessen on their own, then there is no harm or fault in the situation. What 24 doesn't express is that when the obstacles have become removed there is no guarantee which past position the situation will return to.

For this reason, it is important to remember that 24 calls for a turning away from old patterns and encourages openly engaging in thoughts and actions that move you in a more favourable direction for your self, irrespective of the outcome you are expecting or envisioning.

... or it might mean something different for you.

Good Luck

 

[my_key]

I consulted the I Ching as to what hope I can have of being a couple again and I obtained 39 (the impediment) with the mutant line 4 that tends to 31 (the influence).

39 <> 31

'Hardship' through 'Mutual influence'

This does not look to be hopeful for a speedy reconciliation. Hardships look to be being manifest through the way that you engage with each other (31). 39 advocates that the best way forward lies in you both adopting a more reflective approach and to discover where and how you can rise above and out of the practical and emotional swamps that you are both wading through now,

39.4 - When you have both made changes to how you see things and are both standing on firmer ground then there will be greater opportunity to find a different balance in your relationship.

... or there may be other interpretations.

Good Luck

 

[Liselle]

Hello POS256,

I merged your threads into one.

The reason this is important is because when you cast readings, you're actually having a conversation with Yi, similar to a conversation you'd have with a person. Yi remembers the readings you've already cast, and the new answers might build on the previous ones.

This is important for people replying. It's helpful to see all of the readings, in the order you cast them.

If you post a reading about a new topic, it should go in a new thread. But it's better to add follow-up readings to the original thread.

 

[Liselle]

(Thank you for translating, by the way. Much appreciated.)

 

[POS256]

39 <> 31

'Hardship' through 'Mutual influence'

This does not look to be hopeful for a speedy reconciliation. Hardships look to be being manifest through the way that you engage with each other (31). 39 advocates that the best way forward lies in you both adopting a more reflective approach and to discover where and how you can rise above and out of the practical and emotional swamps that you are both wading through now,

39.4 - When you have both made changes to how you see things and are both standing on firmer ground then there will be greater opportunity to find a different balance in your relationship.

... or there may be other interpretations.

Good Luck

Thank you very much my_key for your answer!
The truth is that the future does not seem very encouraging...
I did another query to Yi with no specific question, just an overview of X and me and got 56.5 (the wanderer) trending to 33 (the retreat).
My interpretation, in general, is that great achievements cannot be expected at the moment, that better situations will come. That success will be achieved by working on myself and accepting things as they are (59.5). And, that I forget to recover our partner in a friendly way (33).
Please, could you help me with your vision? Am I wrong in the interpretation?
It's very hard for me because I really consider that we were life partners.
Thanks for your help.

 

[my_key]

Hi Pos256
59 <> 33
'Dispersing' through 'Retiring'
Your quest at this time is nothing more than to allow your wounds to heal.
Using my vision I can see that you have reached a clear meaning of what the reading means for you.

Well done & Good Luck

 

[POS256]

Hi Pos256
59 <> 33
'Dispersing' through 'Retiring'
Your quest at this time is nothing more than to allow your wounds to heal.
Using my vision I can see that you have reached a clear meaning of what the reading means for you.

Well done & Good Luck

Sorry my_key,
The correct hexagrames were 56.5 <> 33.
It was my fault.
Thank you

 

[my_key]

Sorry my_key,
The correct hexagrames were 56.5 <> 33.
It was my fault.
Thank you

56 <> 33
'Sojourning at the Borders' through 'Retiring'
Stay strong in the isolation and strangeness of this new land in order to re-connect what has been scattered.
Good Luck

 

[POS256]

56 <> 33
'Sojourning at the Borders' through 'Retiring'
Stay strong in the isolation and strangeness of this new land in order to re-connect what has been scattered.
Good Luck

Thank you!

 

[POS256]

Hello again,

Following this chain.

I have asked I Ching: After our last meeting and trying to patch things up, why does X still not want to come back to me?

I received 17.2.4.6 to 61.

Could you help me with the interpretation, please? Are the tasks that have gone out for him, for me or for the partner?

Thank you!

 

[POS256]

Also, I asked: Which hexagram will define my future relationship with X obtaining 9.3 to 61.

My interpretation is that we need a personnal growing before we could achieve a successful final (9). I need to be patient and do not depend of the other.

Could you please help me?

Thank you!

 

[my_key]

Hello again,

Following this chain.

I have asked I Ching: After our last meeting and trying to patch things up, why does X still not want to come back to me?

I received 17.2.4.6 to 61.

Could you help me with the interpretation, please? Are the tasks that have gone out for him, for me or for the partner?

Thank you!

He does not want to come back because he is following his inner truth

Also, I asked: Which hexagram will define my future relationship with X obtaining 9.3 to 61.

My interpretation is that we need a personnal growing before we could achieve a successful final (9). I need to be patient and do not depend of the other.

Could you please help me?

Thank you!

Yi seems to be indicating that little by little you need to accumulate your own inner truth about the relationship.

... or these interpretations could well mean something different for you.

Good Luck

 

[POS256]

Thank you my_key for your response.

It seems that there is no option for a reconcilliation. Neither in the future, isn’t it?

It’s too hard for me understand this…

 

[POS256]

Hi all,

I am a little bit confused…

After don’t receive any hopeful reading regarding my relationship with X, I have asked to Yi: How are X's feelings towards me evolving? I had 13.1.4.5 to 52.

My interpretation could be:
- (52) He is looking for his internal peace.
- (13.1) Act without secrets to a good new beginning.
- (13.4) reconcilliation is close if problems are fixed.
- (13.5) Although we are separated we will be together again after some time because we love each other.

Could you please help me with my interpretation? Am I in the correct way?

Thank you!