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xumarhu

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Hello, hoping to get some feedback on this, I asked, "Am I good for him?"

I'm trying to make amends with a friend. There were always strong feelings between us (good and bad) and I know he's still very angry and disappointed at me, he's not someone who would express that but remains quiet. I'm going through difficult health and personal issues myself and he is aware of that. In any case, I've been feeling very ashamed and guilty about the whole situation and I just want to be fair with him, he's not someone who would reject me openly so I'm afraid I'm forcing things, I already told him so but he didn't address it and we somewhat talk about small things but I feel panicked about my replies sounding too eager and rude or boring, idk the whole thing is messed up and I have no right to ask for more. I just want to be fair.

Lines 1 and 4 speak to me about letting things flow and to remain sincere.

Line 6 however, shows how things end up often, he takes a long time to reply and I know it will take time for him to trust me again but I get very stressed about finding the correct words all the time, this is all I think about daily. I don't want to lose him but more than that, I don't want to add any more pain to his life. That's why my question about whether or not I bring any value to his life.
 

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25 is about naturalness & ease.
Reading aside, if I felt so much trepidation over this person, I would ask why I want so badly to remain associated with someone who inspires so much anxiety. And won't communicate how they feel directly.

However without context (for example, what you did to receive angry disappointed response) hard to say.
You seem quite anxious to please your friend.
That can be tempting after offending someone. But maybe leaving the issue alone for awhile will be better.
Especially if it is about guilt, as you are concerned with losing and with offending him, this would make communication stilted & difficult.
Have you tried openly expressing that you feel this anxiety, to him?

...anyways, your cast.

Line 1 - a person who moves in sincerity, any action is beneficial
Line 4 - "if he can be firm and correct there will be no error"
Line 6 - advises not making any fresh movement. It is not a matter of sincerity but the situation just isn't advantageous for you to make a move.

I'm not a scholar of different methods of interpretation but from my experience, when lines 1 & 6 are moving it's often "skipping through" the hexagram into the resultant. And with 3 lines, the middle line takes precedence.

Since line 4 lies in the middle, I seems to say "look you are either in a situation where your sincere movements are advantageous or where they make no difference. Take caution to distinguish which situation this is"

8 is open ended about examining who one associates with.
 

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25 <> 8

' Disentangling' through 'Seeking Union'

With regards to this situation, Yi is stating that you are currently swimming in a sea where you can find joy and delight through forming new groups (8). Currently, you are enwrapped in a web of external catastrophic events that you have taken very personally and even appear to be taking full responsibility for. 25 asks that you disentangle yourself from this way of seeing things. It advocates that you bask in a greater sense of confidence and to nurture yourself, starting from the inside and working out, in ways that promote the truth of the matter springing forth.

25.1 - Explore the true reality of this situation and allow new perspectives to bubble up. There is nothing to fear in doing this and take as long as you need. There is no rush.
25.4 - Once the truth of your purpose has become clear to you then follow through on it with choices and behaviours that appropriately align.
25.6- The wisdom in this oracle is to not do anything yet: let things unfold; let the sea become less stormy as you group with each new perspective. At this time, anything you do or say based in your current frame of mind will be nothing but a massive blunder.

... of course you may see other meanings that resonate more with you.

Good Luck.
 
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xumarhu

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25 is about naturalness & ease.
Reading aside, if I felt so much trepidation over this person, I would ask why I want so badly to remain associated with someone who inspires so much anxiety. And won't communicate how they feel directly.

However without context (for example, what you did to receive angry disappointed response) hard to say.
You seem quite anxious to please your friend.
That can be tempting after offending someone. But maybe leaving the issue alone for awhile will be better.
Especially if it is about guilt, as you are concerned with losing and with offending him, this would make communication stilted & difficult.
Have you tried openly expressing that you feel this anxiety, to him?

...anyways, your cast.

Line 1 - a person who moves in sincerity, any action is beneficial
Line 4 - "if he can be firm and correct there will be no error"
Line 6 - advises not making any fresh movement. It is not a matter of sincerity but the situation just isn't advantageous for you to make a move.

I'm not a scholar of different methods of interpretation but from my experience, when lines 1 & 6 are moving it's often "skipping through" the hexagram into the resultant. And with 3 lines, the middle line takes precedence.

Since line 4 lies in the middle, I seems to say "look you are either in a situation where your sincere movements are advantageous or where they make no difference. Take caution to distinguish which situation this is"

8 is open ended about examining who one associates with.
thank you so much for your reply, im feeling better now and youre very right about drowning in my anxiety bc of this. I did tell him about it but things have always been about me so now I have to be patient since hes been the one always waiting. Best wishes!!
 
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xumarhu

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25 <> 8

' Disentangling' through 'Seeking Union'

With regards to this situation, Yi is stating that you are currently swimming in a sea where you can find joy and delight through forming new groups (8). Currently, you are enwrapped in a web of external catastrophic events that you have taken very personally and even appear to be taking full responsibility for. 25 asks that you disentangle yourself from this way of seeing things. It advocates that you bask in a greater sense of confidence and to nurture yourself, starting from the inside and working out, in ways that promote the truth of the matter springing forth.

25.1 - Explore the true reality of this situation and allow new perspectives to bubble up. There is nothing to fear in doing this and take as long as you need. There is no rush.
25.4 - Once the truth of your purpose has become clear to you then follow through on it with choices and behaviours that appropriately align.
25.6- The wisdom in this oracle is to not do anything yet: let things unfold; let the sea become less stormy as you group with each new perspective. At this time, anything you do or say based in your current frame of mind will be nothing but a massive blunder.

... of course you may see other meanings that resonate more with you.

Good Luck.
Hi, Mike. Your replies are always so thoughtful and spot on. You're so right, I'm making this whole thing about me and breaking my head with it, wanting to fix everything right now, its just that my emotions grow out of control while trying to be straight w him and trying to change my selfish ways. I feel better now, and believe he's waiting to see if im serious about us. Thank you so much and I wish you the best!!
 

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