27.3.5 > 37 clearing the way for love

[chingching]

godessliss and I seem to be on a similar timetable for lovelife.

I asked "what can I do to clear the way for love to come into my life" and got:

27.3.5 > 37

And as soon as I asked it my mind was filled with anxious questions, should I even be looking for love right now, isnt that too much to expect, I should just be trying to meet new people and have a good time.... etc. so I kind of feel like I shouldn't have asked this question.

I read some threads on this combo and from them and my own experience 37 isn't really something for a love connection but rather a basis for a love connection to be built upon, and that being close ties, close friendship but with the emphasis of people who you stick with a work together with. Which in my opinion is the stuff lasting relationships are about, I've yet to experience one but have always seen this in others.

but the lines of 27, I should watch what I crave for? line 3...maybe points to my love life up until now, there is lot going on for me at the moment and one thing is a major shift in a friendship of mine with a man who, when I finally was honest with myself, I had been in love with for 10 years. oi,

line 5 has differences in interpretations, I'm hoping its telling me to decide for myself what I need to nourish me. hmmmm, the backdrop is I have become increasingly , seriously interested in mr. 25 > 35 but am sort of expecting the worst.

 

[icastes]

Oh my goddess. 27, the mouth, the cheeks, nourishing, etc., is a warning to you. You are feeding yourself, not feeding anyone else. This quest is selfishly based and completely self-centered. If you want a rich harvest, then you have to stop being so self-centered. How can you expect love to come into your life with that kind of attitude?

 

[goddessliss]

ooh Ouch!! about icastes reading - but I guess only you know if that's true chingching.

If I was a man I would chase after you ching ching!

My take on this reading is by being so focused(like me)on finding a partner you are nourishing yourself with 'the excitment' of looking for that partner line 3 but really it is better to
'You will find all you need in your own soul and in your close surroundings' line 6.

Now you know I am talking from personal experience and, icastes last words to me about letting my love life take care of itself, well I have literally taken that on board, and chingching I feel so much better - it is all about acceptance and where we are at and finding much more nourishing things to focus on.
So even though this wasn't the answer to my question I am finding nourishment from my own soul and my own surroundings - planting sunflower seeds and sanding back and doing up an old wooden table to make my environment just beautifully, soul touching.
As it turns out I have been exchanging fb msges with a man who is hearing impaired I met on a dating site 6 months ago and was the catalyst for me to be studying the sign language in the particular place I am. I have never met him but I AM not asking questions or focusing on where our connection might go. He lives about 40 minutes from me. I no longer use dating sites cause they are just so, so bad for the soul cause you know what? my love life will take care of itself.

ching ching this is your kick up the b.....xx

 

[icastes]

People like to hear the news that they want to hear.

 

[chingching]

This quest is selfishly based and completely self-centered.

I'm curious where you got this from, the yi, or from your own opinion...

because in terms of yi interpretations all I can find for lines 2 & 5 are not allowing yourself to be nourished (which is not selfishness) and advice on allowing yourself the kind of nourishment you specifically need, and for line five an interesting addition being that 'no direction brings harvest'' can be that instead of going out and 'crossing the river'....by just carrying on with things in a small way, instead good things come to you.

this was an interesting interpretation of 27 > 37 in another thread:

Both lines point to the importance of listening to one's own heart and recognising the genuinely nourishing aspects of the situation. 27.3 shows someone failing to do that, rejecting the food that could nourish them and going hungry as a result. 27.5 shows someone succeeding at it and finding nourishment even off the beaten path.

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=7846

The problems I have I find directly reflected in the many translations of 27.3. I see 27.5 as what I need to do now, finding nourishment in a way that isn't as prescribed by others.

27 is about being careful about what you let it, and I think I should have been more careful about posting this up here. But to simplify it to one line.

27.3.5 > 37

love yourself and love will find you.

and in terms of my question, what can I do to clear space for love to enter my life, nourish myself.

but the act of nourishing yourself, and the whole framework (of activities, assumptions, contexts…) that keeps you nourished.

from the wikiwing on 27

Liss, where did you get this from... it seems almost like you read a different line

you are nourishing yourself with 'the excitement' of looking for that partner line 3

Line 3 is about the perils of rejecting nourishment and how one should never to do that to oneself.
????????
I feel like you read your own situation into mine and didn't discern between the two.

icastes, my question is selfish, or my quest to find love is selfish and hex 27 brought you to that conclusion, I'm sorry but.... maybe if it was unchanging or line 1 was changing...

Were the two of you on crazy juice?

I think maybe you read what you wanted to read.

 

[Trojina]

I'm curious where you got this from, the yi, or from your own opinion...

because in terms of yi interpretations all I can find for lines 2 & 5 are not allowing yourself to be nourished (which is not selfishness) and advice on allowing yourself the kind of nourishment you specifically need, and for line five an interesting addition being that 'no direction brings harvest'' can be that instead of going out and 'crossing the river'....by just carrying on with things in a small way, instead good things come to you.

this was an interesting interpretation of 27 > 37 in another thread:


http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=7846

The problems I have I find directly reflected in the many translations of 27.3. I see 27.5 as what I need to do now, finding nourishment in a way that isn't as prescribed by others.

27 is about being careful about what you let it, and I think I should have been more careful about posting this up here. But to simplify it to one line.

27.3.5 > 37

love yourself and love will find you.

and in terms of my question, what can I do to clear space for love to enter my life, nourish myself.

from the wikiwing on 27

Liss, where did you get this from... it seems almost like you read a different line

Line 3 is about the perils of rejecting nourishment and how one should never to do that to oneself.
????????
I feel like you read your own situation into mine and didn't discern between the two.

icastes, my question is selfish, or my quest to find love is selfish and hex 27 brought you to that conclusion, I'm sorry but.... maybe if it was unchanging or line 1 was changing...

Were the two of you on crazy juice?

I think maybe you read what you wanted to read.

are you joking or just being rude ? I can see why Icastes may have annoyed you but I can't see why Goddess gets the same treatment

 

[Trojina]

Oh my goddess. 27, the mouth, the cheeks, nourishing, etc., is a warning to you. You are feeding yourself, not feeding anyone else. This quest is selfishly based and completely self-centered. If you want a rich harvest, then you have to stop being so self-centered. How can you expect love to come into your life with that kind of attitude?

Having questioned CCs attitude I admit I can see why anyone would be a tad peeved with your interpretation. We aren't meant to critisize anothers interpretation here...which is a good rule but then again I find I am often wanting to say something to you about some of your interpretations, which often to me seem completely strange.
Well strange is okay...I can see you have a fairly unique understanding of the Yi and so make your unique contribution but the above is really a totally unfounded judgement on someone. This kind of comment potentially could be quite harmful to someone...and as far as I am concerned you have no real basis for saying it.

I didn't know where to say this...moderation seems too heavy and ...I've nothing against you but I have to say sometimes your interpretations worry me....well its not the interpretation but the finality of the judgement that goes with it.

 

[gato]

27.3.5>37 are turning your back on love?

on a personal note the only way to clear the way is from the inside-out, like start giving it

 

[goddessliss]

Thks trojan for advocating for me.
chingching and I spoke through PMs, it's all good. xx

 

[icastes]

Having questioned CCs attitude I admit I can see why anyone would be a tad peeved with your interpretation. We aren't meant to critisize anothers interpretation here...which is a good rule but then again I find I am often wanting to say something to you about some of your interpretations, which often to me seem completely strange.
Well strange is okay...I can see you have a fairly unique understanding of the Yi and so make your unique contribution but the above is really a totally unfounded judgement on someone. This kind of comment potentially could be quite harmful to someone...and as far as I am concerned you have no real basis for saying it.

I didn't know where to say this...moderation seems too heavy and ...I've nothing against you but I have to say sometimes your interpretations worry me....well its not the interpretation but the finality of the judgement that goes with it.

If Goddess is offended, I apologize. Goddess, if you took my comments in the wrong way, I am sorry. I am very sympathetic to your plight, and I am trying to help, not hurt you.

Trojan, I do not see this interpretation as a personal attack or criticism and it is not meant to be. The gua 27 is clearly about feeding oneself, not others. In the context of the question, the question is about satisfying a personal appetite, contrary to the intent that the question presents. She did not ask about learning about virtue, for example, and nourishing herself with higher knowledge. If she did, then the interpretation would be different. That you think that my view is incorrect is debatable, but surely you are not suggesting that my interpretation ought to be in conformity with yours unless, of course, you claim greater wisdom in these matters. Is that the case? Then, surely, you can demonstrate my position incorrect and I would happily submit to your view.

As for judgment, the Yijing is nothing but judgments. It is very hard to avoid. Part of the judgment of 27 is: "Pay attention to nourishment and to what you want to put into your mouth." This gua is a lot tougher than it meets the eye.

K.

 

[icastes]

I'm curious where you got this from, the yi, or from your own opinion...

because in terms of yi interpretations all I can find for lines 2 & 5 are not allowing yourself to be nourished (which is not selfishness) and advice on allowing yourself the kind of nourishment you specifically need, and for line five an interesting addition being that 'no direction brings harvest'' can be that instead of going out and 'crossing the river'....by just carrying on with things in a small way, instead good things come to you.

this was an interesting interpretation of 27 > 37 in another thread:


http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=7846

The problems I have I find directly reflected in the many translations of 27.3. I see 27.5 as what I need to do now, finding nourishment in a way that isn't as prescribed by others.

27 is about being careful about what you let it, and I think I should have been more careful about posting this up here. But to simplify it to one line.

27.3.5 > 37

love yourself and love will find you.

and in terms of my question, what can I do to clear space for love to enter my life, nourish myself.

from the wikiwing on 27

Liss, where did you get this from... it seems almost like you read a different line

Line 3 is about the perils of rejecting nourishment and how one should never to do that to oneself.
????????
I feel like you read your own situation into mine and didn't discern between the two.

icastes, my question is selfish, or my quest to find love is selfish and hex 27 brought you to that conclusion, I'm sorry but.... maybe if it was unchanging or line 1 was changing...

Were the two of you on crazy juice?

I think maybe you read what you wanted to read.

The hexagram, 27, says that nourishing is correct if it is in the service of being upright and steadfast, i.e., for the sake of virtue. Otherwise, eating is solely for the sake of personal appetite. Is the question about virtue? If not, then clearly the act of eating is self-centered. So, it is very much about what one allows to bring in. Consider the question and then the answer.

K.

 

[goddessliss]

I am also comfortable and happy with icastes readings he has done for me.

There is really only one person posts that I didn't continually like and she is no longer allowed to participate in this forum.
I have replied on other posts before and I note they just don't acknowledge me at all and that's fine - you can't like everyone.
Personally I think everyone on this forum has a good heart and just wants to help others and noone intentionally tries to offend.
This forum has been a godsend to me and I think not long ago I thanked everyone who has offered their help to me and Hilary for creating this site in the first place.

I hope everyone has a lovely day and something beautiful touches your heart cause this post, originally started by ching ching, is called 'clearing the way for love'.

Melissa xx

 

[sooo]

sipping the crazy juice....

I think it speaks to seeking the wholeness rather than the uniqueness, which is sort of a paraphrase for icastes' more direct words, which were a bit ouchie, but I think he meant to just be straight forward. Given the change lines, I could see arriving there.

I like goddessliss' view lots. It reflects integration, the clan of ones own.

Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr.

Them that's got shall get
Them that's not shall lose
So the Bible said and it still is news
Mama may have, Papa may have
But God bless the child that's got his own
That's got his own

Yes, the strong gets more
While the weak ones fade
Empty pockets don't ever make the grade
Mama may have, Papa may have
But God bless the child that's got his own
That's got his own

Money, you've got lots of friends
Crowding round the door
When you're gone, spending ends
They don't come no more
Rich relations give
Crust of bread and such
You can help yourself
But don't take too much
Mama may have, Papa may have
But God bless the child that's got his own
That's got his own

Mama may have, Papa may have
But God bless the child that's got his own
That's got his own
He just worry 'bout nothin'
Cause he's got his own

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1LfT1MvzI