33.Tun/ Retreat

[janet]

Dear reader,
After a lot of turmoil I was asking the I Ching what would happen between my boyfriend and me.
It said: 33. Tun/ Retreat with the moving lines 4 and 6 with the relating hexagram 39.Chien/ Obstruction.
I thought this was positive.
But to see where he is coming from I asked how he felt about me and this was the I Ching's answer:
44. Kou/ Coming to Meet with moving lines 4 and 6 with the relating hexagram 48. Ching/ the Well.
Can somebody please tell me whether this is good or bad?
Thank you very much.
Love Janet

 

[candid]

Hi Janet,

Seems like 44 is out in force lately!

Your well is the shining spot in your reading. Its your resource for life. Its where you can go to replenish and quench your thirst for life's experience.

All the hexagrams and change lines point to a withdrawal from agonizing over the questions about your boyfriend. I didn't say to give up on him or to not continue to foster a healthy and meaningful relationship. Just give up attempting to contrive a conclusion according to your whims and passions.

People (your boyfriend included) are attracted to someone who is happy and content. By turning to mold your own character in a way that you find pleasing, you will attract him more, and probably a couple others too! But that's another story.

I wish you well.

Candid

 

[gene]

Hi Janet

I might throw out a question for you which you don't need to answer on the board, unless you want to, but, do you by any chance have a tendency to try to remold this man in your own image? This is what strikes me when I read #44 line 6. It sounds like this man is maintaining his composure with you, but has lost heart in the long run for a true relationship. I believe that may be why you received #33 first. Other than that, I think Candids last paragraph is very significant in this matter.

Gene

 

[janet]

Hi Candid and Gene,
Gene you have no idea how close you are.
My boyfriend is not willing to ever marry again after three failures.
But when we first met there was such heavy spark on us.
Only he has another woman too only for the sake of her children.(According to him).
But there are things between us...so heavy... but due to others things are getting nasty between us.
I just hope he will hang in and come back.
But thank you both for the very clear insight.
Love Janet

 

[anita]

This one is about a pup I'd picked up couple of weeks ago from the road. The poor thing was so cute and trying to find a friendly face, wagging at everyone so I brought him home to my 5 dogs. But he peed all over the place and I realised I have no patience for a puppy in my house at this time. Besides, keeping a 6th dog is a bit much. Couldn't find him a home. So I left him at a shelter the other day. Poor sad face which I will always remember - Why are you leaving me here?

But was the best I could do for him. When i asked the Yi if he'll survive there (the staff tried to discourage me from leaving him there saying that most dogs died of infection from others) and I got 33. What interested me was the text in a book I have:

The Piglet stays in his penn and gets fat. It is good for him although he is kept there against his will. It really is so apt. And I think my pup Dude is healthy enough to survive.

Best for Your Quest Janet

Anita

 

[pam]

Janet,

With the information about the other woman coming out, I would say the advice you got means YOU need to retreat because of the obstruction of another woman coming between you and this man. How he feels - coming to meet - he desires you sexually maybe, and you might excite him, but in the context of being the "well", he does not move from his course with this other woman just for excitement's sake. Sounds like he gets excited by women all the time - 3 wives already - and probably knows that changing wives doesn't solve his problem of wandering. Maybe he has decided to stay put this time. Sorry this isn't encouraging, but I think Candid's advice was right on.

 

[janet]

Dear all,
Thank you for your advices. And I am thinking about changing me like Candid said, because it is neccessary.
But I have another vision about obstruction.
I think the obstruction are my parents.
Because if I choose for my boyfriend I have to leave my parents.
And in order to be able to live at last. I will choose for my boyfriend.
But thank you for all the advices.
Love Janet

 

[bfireman]

Hi Janet-

Since I am relatively new to this, I have yet to offer advice to others on their divinations in this forum. However, a bit of advice from my perspective on your two readings (and you did ask...) is that you are not paying attention. It is my experience the yi, if used with an open and sincere heart/mind, will give you good advice on the best way to deal with situations. It is of course up to you whether to listen or not. The changing lines in your first divination do appear favorable, yet I think this needs to be viewed in the context of "retreat" as Candid mentioned. His advice echoes my experience with this hexagram. Hexagram 44 seems to be a pretty literal warning, one not to be taken lightly. Sounds like you have made your decision. A bit of advice, stay open to the consequences of your actions and pay attention to how what you think affects what you experience. We learn from making correct as well as incorrect decisions. Time will reveal how this divination plays out in your life, and if you pay attention, there are always valuable lessons..

Peace - Brian

 

[janet]

Hi Brian,
Thank you very much for this advice.
It is indeed better to pay attention.
I see now this retreat, because yesterday I finally decided for me to stay away a little from my boyfriend untill I have my own place.
So perhaps this is the retreat.
But in order for the obstruction there are still two possibilities.
This I will leave open and time will tell which one it was.
Anyway I will be careful to all consequences.
Love Janet