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Things haven't been well around here. I've spent hours in the last few days thinking about how much better it would be to die than to keep suffering with my own negative thinking. This morning I woke up from a dream where one of my teeth fell out, it was so real, I could feel the twinge of pain, the socket where the tooth was. In the dream I went to show my girlfriend what happened and as I looked around for her, several more fell out, and soon enough it was almost all of them, until I had a handful of bloody teeth. I found her and showed her the teeth in my hand but I couldn't say what happened because mouth was full of blood, and I didn't want her to see how bad it was. She didn't seem to understand, I just kept pointing at my mouth and she would stare at me. I knew it was all over, everything. There was nothing to be done. She said something to me about how she was going to learn more about seppuku, and then walked away.

What was this dream trying to tell me? 47.5 >40

I am grateful for your responses, if you feel you have insight into this reading, Thank you
 

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leafeater --- First I would like to say that 47.5 < 40 indicates to not give up: there will be release from your suffering. To die would not guarantee release from you suffering. But "moving slowly" and "using offering and oblations" can lead to release from your sufferings.

I think in the dream that your perception that it "was over...nothing to be done" is inaccurate. Your girlfriend needs to attend to some personal business, but then she will return.

She is not going to commit an act of seppuku. You are not going to commit an act of seppuku. Perhaps she wants to learn more about it in order to know how to prevent it. Perhaps it is something in one or both of your ancestral lines that is preventing communication between you now.

Which I Ching translation(s) do you use? What is your country of origin and what is your fluent language?

p.s. Hexagram 40 can be about FOREGIVENESS. Do your and your girlfriend need to offer apologies and forgiveness to each other? Do you need to forgive yourself?
 
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47.5 can indicate taking some supposed authority too seriously. If you free yourself from them, which you can, you find actually they never really did have any authority over you.

I don't know what the authority is in the dream but I notice how your girlfriend seems not to hear you and this ties in well with what it says about words not being believed in 47.

I have no idea what seppuku is ? I will have to google.

But the idea is something really need not be taken so seriously. I imagine it's probably your girlfriend or your idea that she must understand you ?
 

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What was this dream trying to tell me?
47.5>40


Teeth are needed for nourishment. Loss of teeth suggests that your nourishment, whether material or psychological, is not correct. The oral condition in your dream is like scurvy. A fundamental need is not being met in your life. Especially if you (leafeater) are a vegetarian, carefully examine your diet. Dui is the trigram of the mouth, and Kan is the trigram of blood, thus blood in the mouth. Hexagram 47 is the hexagram of oppression, and line 5 is the line of communication. Your release will come through communication. Perhaps there is something you need to say to someone and have been unable to say it. I agree with jumpingmouse that this will soon be behind you.
 

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Thank you guys for responding, I wasn't sure if posting this would be helpful but it actually made a huge difference. Because of what you guys said, I decided to tell my gifrlfriend something that I've been trying to avoid talking about with her for years, because I thought she would judge me and wouldn't understand. I thought about this matter every day, day after day, when I woke up, when I went to bed, and it was literally taking the life out of me not to tell her. I wanted to so many times but for various reasons I came to understand she would be intolerant to the subject, and to be honest if I had tried to tell her any time before this I still think it would have been met with an unfortunate reaction. But I took a chance and told her the ugly truth, all of it, and she reacted with love and support. She already knew some of it, but she didn't know how bad it was I guess. I was pretty much in shock that I was able to tell her. I lived for YEARS plagued by this experience and to just let the words fly out of my mouth like doves was the most freeing and unexpected experience. I don't think I ever would have told her if it weren't for the support I got in this thread, because I had expected to go forever carrying that burden inside. Things are getting worked out now, and I do see that the power I gave to the matter was in my own head, which is why it was so important to share it with someone else.

Jumping mouse, I often use the james dekorn website to compare various translations... that may not be the best source, I'm not sure, but I like to cross reference... and you were right about the element of forgiveness on many levels, largely that I needed to forgive myself. And Trojina, I believe I was giving too much authority to the thoughts in my head... Pocossin, It's amazing how you can understand so much with the trigrams, I really hope to get to that level some day. I think for me the nourishment indicated was psychological... as I enjoy many different kinds of foods. But what you said about communication was paramount, it gave me the strength to do something I never would have otherwise. thank you.

Thanks everyone for your responses. They were very helpful
 

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Thank you for the follow up. (and for reference to james dekorn website which I had not seen before)

What a lovely image --- "let words fly out of my mouth like doves".
 

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Hi, im very new in this, but my experience with 47.5 is that Liberation faced with the Oppression can mean acceptance. May be is a situation you cannot change but you can go inside you and test the capability of your acceptance skills. The Liberation in 47.5 is often a inner journey, think in the image of the water going under the lake, its about discover that while you tend to attach yourself to what can be held within the hand, you cannot know today what will come to fulfill you tomorrow. You need to go down, to go inside, not up or outsidde, the liberation comes with the acknowledge of your power source, the subterranian waters, of your adaptation.
 

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Thank you guys for responding, I wasn't sure if posting this would be helpful but it actually made a huge difference. Because of what you guys said, I decided to tell my gifrlfriend something that I've been trying to avoid talking about with her for years, because I thought she would judge me and wouldn't understand. I thought about this matter every day, day after day, when I woke up, when I went to bed, and it was literally taking the life out of me not to tell her. I wanted to so many times but for various reasons I came to understand she would be intolerant to the subject, and to be honest if I had tried to tell her any time before this I still think it would have been met with an unfortunate reaction. But I took a chance and told her the ugly truth, all of it, and she reacted with love and support. She already knew some of it, but she didn't know how bad it was I guess. I was pretty much in shock that I was able to tell her. I lived for YEARS plagued by this experience and to just let the words fly out of my mouth like doves was the most freeing and unexpected experience. I don't think I ever would have told her if it weren't for the support I got in this thread, because I had expected to go forever carrying that burden inside. Things are getting worked out now, and I do see that the power I gave to the matter was in my own head, which is why it was so important to share it with someone else.

Jumping mouse, I often use the james dekorn website to compare various translations... that may not be the best source, I'm not sure, but I like to cross reference... and you were right about the element of forgiveness on many levels, largely that I needed to forgive myself. And Trojina, I believe I was giving too much authority to the thoughts in my head... Pocossin, It's amazing how you can understand so much with the trigrams, I really hope to get to that level some day. I think for me the nourishment indicated was psychological... as I enjoy many different kinds of foods. But what you said about communication was paramount, it gave me the strength to do something I never would have otherwise. thank you.

Thanks everyone for your responses. They were very helpful
Thank you guys for responding, I wasn't sure if posting this would be helpful but it actually made a huge difference. Because of what you guys said, I decided to tell my gifrlfriend something that I've been trying to avoid talking about with her for years, because I thought she would judge me and wouldn't understand. I thought about this matter every day, day after day, when I woke up, when I went to bed, and it was literally taking the life out of me not to tell her. I wanted to so many times but for various reasons I came to understand she would be intolerant to the subject, and to be honest if I had tried to tell her any time before this I still think it would have been met with an unfortunate reaction. But I took a chance and told her the ugly truth, all of it, and she reacted with love and support. She already knew some of it, but she didn't know how bad it was I guess. I was pretty much in shock that I was able to tell her. I lived for YEARS plagued by this experience and to just let the words fly out of my mouth like doves was the most freeing and unexpected experience. I don't think I ever would have told her if it weren't for the support I got in this thread, because I had expected to go forever carrying that burden inside. Things are getting worked out now, and I do see that the power I gave to the matter was in my own head, which is why it was so important to share it with someone else.

Jumping mouse, I often use the james dekorn website to compare various translations... that may not be the best source, I'm not sure, but I like to cross reference... and you were right about the element of forgiveness on many levels, largely that I needed to forgive myself. And Trojina, I believe I was giving too much authority to the thoughts in my head... Pocossin, It's amazing how you can understand so much with the trigrams, I really hope to get to that level some day. I think for me the nourishment indicated was psychological... as I enjoy many different kinds of foods. But what you said about communication was paramount, it gave me the strength to do something I never would have otherwise. thank you.

Thanks everyone for your responses. They were very helpful
Wow! Amazing post. How beautiful.
Wiw
 

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