49.4 (yes about relationship...)

[der_wanderer]

Hello members,

Question: "How will the situation between me and x develop till my birthday" --->49.4 to 63

any ideas?

 

[iams girl]

Hi dw, I hope things get better for the two of you. From my experience, be careful and guard your heart...

"How will the situation between me and x develop till my birthday" --->49.4 to 63

49.4 "The idea of change points at the same time to introduction of the new”: A good time to clear the air.
63 “When no further progress is possible, disorder necessarily arises”: She may still have mixed feelings, but is set in her new path, so be wary of succumbing to false hope. Maintain your dignity and quit while you're ahead.

(W/B, Book III)

 

[dancing white ferret]

I read this as everything is lined up perfectly, disorder could easily arise so great care is necessary (63). 49 is all about making changes, and line 4 suggests a complete 180 is possible. So, I think, you can bring about the change you want now , but will require cooperation, of course, and great care. Best wishes.

 

[der_wanderer]

thanks for posting your opinions!

well they differ a little bit, so i guess we could play in a sergio leone film on the i ging

the good, the bad and the clueless

 

[dancing white ferret]

Not too different. Perhaps my reading contains an optimistic spin, and Iams Girl is more cautious. I see the situation as somewhat sensitive, but there is also a lot of potential. I wouldn't count on any particular outcome with this casting though. Just my take, no experience with this one. This one is tricky because 49 is about molting, out with the old... So, it could mean out with the old, as in your status as being split being reversed. Or, it could be out with the old boyfriend. And 63, everything is lined up and in order, which is invariably where disorder begins, so it is a time to be careful. So, conversely, this could be saying things will be totally different by your birthday. You will molt this idea of getting back with X. Line 4, in Wilhelm's translation speaks about inner truth, and a revolution must be based on that to be successful. What do you really feel deep down about this relationship. Would getting back with this person be a good thing for you? Is the potential there? I think that should answer your question about the nature of the revolution.

Perhaps some of the other members have some experience with this hex that will clarify what is going on here. And, did you check the hex index?

 

[der_wanderer]

"Would getting back with this person be a good thing for you? Is the potential there? "

for me it absolutly would...the question is: is there a real chance for it, or is it just an imagination in my head? at present it seems to be the last one

anyway, thanks for your time

 

[precision grace]

When is your birthday? because it would be awesome to see how it panned out in relation to the interpretations given here. provided you come back and tell us, obviously.

I've been pondering this for a couple of days and to me, it seems like things haven't been working out, something massive had to change, but now the time is right to bring about this radical change 49.4, and things will progress to completion 63. With 63 you have a culmination which inherently carries a warning - when things reach their peak, the only way left is down, so be prepared for that. Now, I don't know if this means you will get together with X finally after which time you have to be prepared for things to go down (and up again) or if it means you will finish with X finally. Have you asked about the possibility of relationship developing between you and X, because this answer is about 'situation developing' and like I said, that could mean two completely different things. In some way it does point to the end with 63, and bearing in mind Lavalamp's idea of what Yi didn't say (for example, Yi didn't come back to you with any of the common 'relationship' hexagrams), it doesn't look that promising for a happy end. Still, you never know what Yi was really getting at, so I would ask very specifically about the potential of the outcome you really desire.

 

[der_wanderer]

Well i just asked (again...) about the potential of a reunion

hexagram 1.2.6 to 49

 

[iams girl]

Just able to get back to the thread and see that “quit while you’re ahead” looked like “end the relationship.” My apologies, I meant it more along the lines of don’t “go too far, too fast” during the “till my birthday” part. In other words, suggesting to secure your position, step at a time. I agree with DWF and think she summed it up nicely, especially the “but will require cooperation” part.

 

[iams girl]

The second cast seems similar to the first to me, that with caution, things can have a positive outcome depending on how the actions and reactions of the two of you are handled. Also, hex 49 image “Thus the superior man sets the calendar in order and make the seasons clear” meaning, imo, reflection and action based on the natural order of things.

For example, in seasons, what does spring mean? To me, it’s the early flowers, tilling and planting, chaotic weather, energy rising. In a relationship, meaning new life from the past, building new connections, emotional uncertainty, passion rising. What does summer mean? To me, its sunshine, enjoying the fruits of labor, sharing, storing what is over-abundant. In a relationship, meaning feeling secure and loved, content with the way things are turning out, sharing, making future plans. Etc. In other words, hold your passionate hex 1 horses (!), keep your expectations in tune with the seasons, do the spring things in spring and summer things in summer, and hopefully live happily ever after into the flames of autumn and embers of winter .

At various points along the way, would also suggest asking Yijing something like “What is going on with X now that would be helpful for me to know?”. (Or, just ask X directly!) This may increase your sensitivity to, and understanding of, what X is going through which also may help temper your actions.

 

[der_wanderer]

Got it, thank you all

Last read on that topic: What would be the outcome of contacting X next month? 26.3

 

[iams girl]

What's your take on it?

 

[der_wanderer]

when a door closes another one opens

 

[iams girl]

when a door closes another one opens

Being flexible, keeping options open makes sense...

What would be the outcome of contacting X next month? 26.3

26.3 "The way opens," "a good horse following another," "danger still threatens," "good to have a goal":

To me, sounds like X will be receptive and things will go positively if you go at her pace and stick to a simple goal. Maybe for a goal, imagine yourself thinking back on your contact with X. What is the most important thing you would like to remember yourself having said or done? When you have that in mind, you'll be ready, relax, make the contact, and find the opening to say or do that thing.

41 "Even with slender means, the sentiment of the heart can be expressed" and "the superior man controls his anger and restrains his instincts.":

Imo, can't go wrong with humility, sincerity, and courtesy.

(W/B, Book I)

 

[der_wanderer]

thx iams girl