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After days of driving myself crazy with the coins & my friends crazy with the telling, I decided to cast one question re: what the outcome of this is going to be with regard to the relationship, with the explicit intent of posting it here for advice. I got 53.1.
I've gotten 26.6 & 13.5 countless times regarding the resolution of this specific communication roundelay, which I only take to mean the "right" thing to happen is going to happen. I don't take it to mean he's actually going to answer, answer in the affirmative, or anything else. So for the purpose of posting I decided to focus on the potential furthering of the relationship itself, vs. the outcome of a communication issue that sounds even dumber to me typing here than it feels.
long yi was kind enough to perform this analysis of the situation, solicited via private message, and granted permission to repost. Instructive above all else -- a read/weep keeper.
Hexagram 32
By fate and destiny, the two individuals (you and him) will not be together.
Specifically, this regards what is going on between myself & another person right now (a bewilderment to me) & whether the prospects for the future are such that I should abide the pain. If he is genuinely confused that's one thing, but if I am being victimized/used totally another. He is giving me very little to go on at present.
With this question in mind I just drew 32 unchanging -- 9:22pm EST. I am not sure whether the lack of moving lines is a problem.
By fate and destiny, the two individuals (you and him) will not be together.
Hexagram 32
By fate and destiny, the two individuals (you and him) will not be together.
Wife xu earth couples to the officer you metal. He is attached to her. In addition, wife xu earth couples to your house of marriage, you man is not available to you.
Since line 6 xu earth produces the metal and also couples to the you metal, this is not easily breakable. As a result, if the female is not you, he has someone in his mind, coupled to and this is why he is not interested in giving you an answer. If line 6 is the rival, she is far away from you.
By fate and destiny, the two individuals (you and him) will not be together.
Person A walks from North to South, while person B walks from East to West. At the cross intersection, they met, chat and you will not alter your path to join him on his path in moving forward and so is him.
I believe Long Yi uses the Na Jia method in his analysis, possibly in combination with other techniques with which I am not yet familiar. Because I am interested in exploring alternative means of interpretation & have struggled with the book I have on Na Jia, I contacted Long Yi & asked if s/he would be willing to perform analysis on a cast done specifically for my current situation.
I do get what you are saying about Long Yi's interpretation not being in conformity with the norm on 32. I think this is because, so far as I can tell, the Na Jia "take" on 32 is a bit different. So far as I can tell, much of this analysis would apply to anyone who draws 32 unchanging, and in absence of a good Na Jia guidebook I find this instructive.
Maybe there are ways of thinking about 32 unchanging that are appropriately pessimistic for a would-be lover, such as myself, to consider? For example, several 32 uc anecdotes in the archive feature unanswered texts & emails sent by a female to a mixed-signals male... it's a bit hard to take that as coincidental. And a bit baked into the hexagram, if read using the Na Jia method.
On the other hand there are sections like this:
This seems very specific to my situation. My love interest, though long separated from his wife, is still married; which would certainly matter if I wished to marry him myself. I don't, but this would be a very useful insight if I didn't know the marital score & had ambitions that way.
And I admit to not being keen at all on this part -- which also would seem specific to me & my question, though I haven't been able to figure out yet how Long Yi got there:
Ouch.
You may be right this post doesn't belong in Shared Readings --
.if the thread needs to be moved elsewhere, I hope someone with moderator power will do so
I've just always been interested in the way Long Yi's posts to various threads play out, and thought it might offer something of interest to others when (if) this one reaches any sort of bookend.
And really did think it would be of interest to others to add this 32 reading to the thread.
What I don't quite get is why I would be unable to value or appreciate your comments (which I very much do/did) because I also have an interest in Na Jia. Clarity is where I learned about it! Several users on here recommended a book (The Authentic I Ching) that does a decent job of covering the basics.
That said -- I did just remove that "fate and destiny" line. I take your point about further confusing newbies, which no one wants. And also fervently hope that part of the interpretation is wrong
p.s. My own more traditional take on 32 unchanging would be that nothing about my relationship with "you metal" (as I will henceforth call him) was changed by either the visit or email. Less brutal than fate & destiny conspiring to deny me, but still not what I want to hear.
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).